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Bring her back / A late work night takes a bad turn
A foster home that seems cozy, a sweet caregiver who’s a little strange right from the beginning, and two siblings just trying to survive—this week Esme and Laura dive into Bring Her Back, the kind of horror that crawls under your skin without ever needing a jump scare. We tease apart how grief becomes the real villain, how “kindness” can have ulterior motives, and why this story feels way too human to shake off.
We break down the movie’s pressure points: the forced “closure” at the funeral, the subtle gaslighting that corners Piper by using her blindness as an advantage, and the unsettling truth about Ollie hiding in plain sight. Yep—salt rings, hair from the dead, creepy VHS tapes, and a whole lot of obsession. We chat about Andy’s sadly wrong choices, those chilling confessions, and why the freezer moment hits like a slow-motion nightmare rather than a twist.
Our verdict? Bring Her Back is social horror with bite—foster care, disability, power, and the kind of adult who can rewrite a kid’s reality. We compare it to Talk to Me (same creators, totally different flavor) and debate the scare-score for hardcore horror fans versus the “I sleep with a night-light” crowd.
Then we hand the mic to our guest Jorge for a real-life scare: tall, shadowy figures at the workplace that was once upon a time an old crematory site, unexplained flames, and a video that refused to save—because of course it didn't. A perfect reminder that sometimes the living and the… not-so-living like to cross paths at the worst moments.
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Hello listeners, I'm Laura. And I'm Esma. And we are Chica's Cukuoy. Thank you for tuning in to our podcast.
SPEAKER_03:This is a podcast dedicated to horror movies and real life cuckoois. We take a deep dive into the horror film world and bring you the latest and greatest, and sometimes they're not so great. We will give you our cinematic reviews and insights to what makes them so terrifyingly good.
SPEAKER_02:And please beware of spoilers. We want you to be happy hearing us, not mad at us for telling you what happens. And after each session, we'll feature a real life scary story. If you have one to share, we'd love to hear about it. And hey, it may even end up in one of our episodes.
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SPEAKER_02:We'll be reviewing Bring her back. My bad. Bring her back. Before we get into that, we are very happy to be once again reviewing movies with you.
SPEAKER_03:Disclaimer: we're very sorry if there's noise. As you know, we live in a very noisy area with bad. And sleeping goblins. And we happen to be cooking, washing clothes, dishwasher, we're doing everything all at once. So ignore our background noise. Okay, now jumping right in. Okay, so this movie Bring Her Back. It's an Australian horror movie. And it was directed by Danny and Michael Philippo. Philippu? I don't know. Philippiu, Peppy Le Piu, written by Danny Philippiou and Bill Hinsman. Heinzman. The film stars Billy Barat. Sorrow. Well, no, I want to say all these things. No, don't. I don't know. I don't know who's that. So, anyways, this plot follows two step siblings who find themselves orphaned and placed in the middle of an occult ritual by their new foster mom. So basically, that's like a little very mini, mini, mini summary. Right now it's available on Amazon Prime and YouTube. And many other TV, like in mostly everything. Be sure to watch it if you haven't watched it. So the cast. The main like people, who do you feel like is like the main character? The little girl?
SPEAKER_02:You know, I was thinking about that and I'm kind of conflicted because there's an equal amount of importance to each character. And just looking at the cover of Bring Her Back, it does portray Ollie slash Connor Bird, the character that is portrayed in the cover. And he's not necessarily the first person that I would think of when you get asked the question of like who's the main character. But he is at the same time like a very important character because of the role he plays in the process of bringing someone back ritualistically. So, anyways, I guess what I'm trying to say is that the children are the most important characters. Yeah. Um, in the hierarchy, maybe it would be Andy, then Piper, and then Ollie. Yes, it's kind of hard to say. I mean, definitely Piper and Andy. Uh siblings. They're the protagonists of the story. They're siblings. Yeah, the step siblings, yes. I just feel like we saw a lot of one-on-one scenes with Andy, like showing what he was going through. So that's why I think Andy is the main character.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, maybe so. Maybe so. So basically, Andy is played by Billy Berat. I'm not even sure how to say these names, so I'm sorry. Billy Barrett. And then Piper, which is the little girl. She's blind. Is she blind in real life? It looks like she is. I did not look into like I did not look up the individual characters or I mean actors, but um, it looks like she is and is played by Sora Wong, and she's a really great actress, by the way. And um then there's this evil witch. I was gonna she doesn't, she's not a witch, she seems all nice at the end, like one of those quirky little weirdo ladies, and then at the end, she's like, evil Laura. Why? Let me pause right there. Why in so many damn horror movies is there a Laura or Laura in the characters?
SPEAKER_02:That's what I'm saying. We do not us, we do not claim all the Laura's for sure, no.
SPEAKER_03:I know, but it's crazy because there's so many, so many horror stories. And it's it's funny. Like, I always like I'm watching a movie and oh Laura, and I'm like, oh my god. I'm always thinking about Laura. I'm like, do it like again, again, like another name. And I searched this up.
SPEAKER_02:Why is it that most horror movies have a character name, Laura, in it, and nothing appears in the search results, not even AI.
SPEAKER_03:So we need to ask Wikipedia or AI, like, hello, pay attention and start like documenting this because this is real. Like, I watch so many horror movies, and there's always a Laura.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So, anyways, this lady is played by Sally Hawkins. Like we already mentioned, Oliver or Ollie, uh, Jonah Brand Phillips. So Ollie is actually the name that Laura names him to play it off because his real name, Connor Bird, later we find out as a different thing. Okay, so let's just jump in. There's obviously other characters, but these are the important ones. So let's jump in.
SPEAKER_02:So we see that these children, Andy and Piper, are unfortunately dealt a bad card. How do you say that phrase like there? Yeah, they've been a they've been dealt a bad hand, right? That's how you say it. Because their biological father to both encounter some form of heart attack slash accident that causes what I think it to be like a like a concussion, something that affected his head, and then there was signs of throw-up in his mouth. So it looked like he had a really sad death. But the point is he died, and that was really tragic to see because you automatically get the hint that Andy, which is the oldest of the siblings, I mean, will now become responsible. But the household, you start thinking, like, damn, they clearly have no one, like there's no woman or mom for either of them. So it's kind of it kind of leaves you at that cliffhanger very early on, like what's gonna happen next? Why where do they go? And Andy's like old, but he's not even 18 yet. No, that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03:Like, he's he's the four months away from being 18 or something like that, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but he's still a child, and yeah, he's it was traumatic that they both Piper and him had to see their father, like and they even showed us that the dad passed away in the shower, so they saw him naked.
SPEAKER_03:The part that I remember started intriguing me more was when they were already I mean, it's Australia, so I'm sure it's basically the same thing as like uh like a child um protective services that type of thing. And um, where they're trying to find them like a foster home, you know. So they're in this office, and the lady that's in charge is like talking about it.
SPEAKER_02:My name is Wendy.
SPEAKER_03:And she's like really nice. She's like, oh, you know, like she's talking about this lady. Like, you know, she's a really nice lady, blah blah blah, this and that. The only problem is that she mentions that, oh well, we'll see what we can find for Andy. And Andy right away is like, wait a minute, we can't be split up. Especially because Piper, I mean, besides the fact that they're like close, he feels like he's like, he needs to take care of her, you know, especially because they lost both parents. But more importantly, yes, because she's blind and she relies on him, even though she looks to be a very independent blind child. But obviously, like they show her moving around in their old home because he was even thinking we can't stay in our home. And he said, No. And then he's like, Well, I could take care of her and this and that. And he's and then the lady said, which tells us that he was gonna turn 18 soon. He goes, Well, you couldn't apply for a guardianship, like once you turn 18. But just because you apply for guardianship doesn't mean they're gonna grant it to you, first of all.
SPEAKER_02:And then they're probably gonna ask him, like, do you have a job?
SPEAKER_03:Or like, what do you think? Like, how are you gonna maintain? So, I mean, it looked bleak, but he also didn't want them to be separated, obviously.
SPEAKER_02:So, Wendy seemingly already has for foster a foster parent for Piper, and she basically made it seem like I'll talk to her and let's see if she'll make room for you, Andy. And they both wanted to stay together, so luckily they were able to. So there was this one detail that kind of they kind of brushed over it. We didn't know the details at the start. So that lady Wendy references Andy and the new foster parent, saying that she would have to speak with her because she's had an experience in the past that kind of spooked her from allowing new kids to come in that had some form of like trauma or like violent background. But what she's referring to is something that's in Andy's file. I guess it was reported once that he maybe put hands on Piper. The thing that's unclear is like how did that get on his file report? I did that parents once called the cops on him. Like, we don't know all that. Yeah, and we don't know how it's like public knowledge. Yeah, but she brought that up.
SPEAKER_03:And then Piper was kind of confused, she might get a little confused now.
SPEAKER_02:And as the audience, you you are confused at the start of the movie, too. But we later find out it's it's literally that that when they were siblings younger, like they got into it. And he was like eight years old. I honestly think that part is a little stupid and ridiculous because what sibling doesn't really get down with the other sibling in the past. I know. What Leslie doesn't at one point slap somebody in the head, especially Mexican families, like isn't aren't you like isn't that a given? Like you're gonna have fossils in your lifetime. This foster parent, her name is Laura Laura, however you want to call it. I would never want someone to call me Laura, but that's that person's name. So she ends up accepting Andy to enter her house, and she's very welcoming. But right away, um, she seems to be way more interested in Piper than Andy. Like, she didn't even play it off when they take a selfie and like to the whole welcoming. She's really just catering towards Piper. She even blocks Andy, like yeah, when they supposedly take a selfie, like she's she's not even worrying that his he's like in the image or like at a good angle. She really just disregards him from the start. Like, it's almost like pessimaggressive on purpose. Yeah, like who wouldn't notice that?
SPEAKER_03:Up until this point, we didn't realize, or we find out as we're there arriving with them, that there's another child in Laura's home. Okay, so this child, first of all, doesn't look like a normal child. He's emotionless, mute, weirdo. Yeah, and he looks kind of like creepy, traumatized. It's like something's wrong. Like maybe like, so we're trying to understand like, uh, is something like mentally wrong with him, or is he what? Like, you know, he obviously stands out. And he told the other kids, oh, he's harmless, he's really nice, he's a sweet boy, this and that, whatever, whatever, right? And then like she kind of like shoes him into like a room, and like, oh, you stay there. We'll we'll see him later. And then like she like locks him up, no?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but the weirdest part is that Piper can't see, right? And they're all somehow in the household down to lie to Piper and make it seem as if he's like this cute, happy little boy because she's over here asking Andy, like, what's he doing? And clearly that's what Andy is to her, like someone to confirm, you know, what's going on, what are the details of what I can't see. And he's like, Oh, he's smiling at you, like he's nice. And re in reality, when you are watching the movie, you're gonna know what we're talking about. He is just like out of it, and he could clearly trans, like weird, yeah. But because Andy does that, then it looks like the foster parent, it looks like she likes the idea of lying to her and giving her this facade, and that's when she just starts describing him as like his curly haired, red, cute boy. Perfect. So I don't know. For me, that was already rubbing me the wrong way. Like, you guys are lying to her, which maybe all these things could have helped type her down the line, you know, foresee what's going on. Like, she should have known from the start there was something off, whatever. That's just my opinion. Yeah, and then yeah, like that that's my biggest observation that like Andy I think messed up because he opened that door of like showing that it's okay to lie and like kind of hide the truth and show your cook stuff. So let's see yola corriente laway.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and let's add that they don't they have like a secret word that to know if they're actually like saying the truth to each other, which is great for yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That was weird.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was weird because they didn't use it that much, and then when they counted and they use it, like it was not yeah. So remember, because they lost their father, they actually are gonna be attending the dad's funeral. And Laura was more than happy to take them, but she was also like kind of telling them, yeah, kind of telling them like odd things, like uh people also have to be that sad, and she's trying to uplift them and but in a way that's very inconsiderate. Like, I get you, like you know, like it's a celebration, but not everybody feels that way, they're still mourning.
SPEAKER_02:And then when they get there, first of all, she's the only one in like bright ass purple. I know, which I thought was weird because I'm like, you could at least have dent it down a tad bit if you didn't own black, but you should have worn black, and then secondly, she's over there like asking or must be and telling Andy, like say the proper goodbye to him, like kiss him. Yeah, first she made him look at him. So I don't know what you remember about being with Piper in the car. I don't recall anything, other than her saying, like, oh, what do you guys like to do for fun? Like trying to change the subject. But before we get there, at the actual funeral, Andy wasn't down to look at his father, and I think it was because he's like in a corpse state. And then Piper being that she's unable to, she was asking him to describe blah blah blah. You get you get where this is going. Like Andy just easily lies to her just to pacify her, but it's not truth. So she used that little grapefruit thing on him, and he he lied and said that no, he looks great, blah blah blah. But you could say you just like looking up in the yeah, he was he would never actually looked at him. So that snitch foster parent is over there trying to stir up something, and she's like outing him basically in front of Piper, saying, You should look at him. Like it's like this is the last time you're gonna see him. Yeah, it's unhealthy, and like if you believe in certain things, like this, their soul was something like their soul is still in here, so pay your respects. But then Piper gets affected because she's you know, she's really and that, and she probably is buying into that whole fake thing of like, oh, we're not saying our proper respects. Come on, it's our daddy should do that at the very least. I don't know what she's thinking, but the tell me why the ladies like kiss him, it's custom for you to kiss him, and it's like no, like, what if he doesn't want to kiss him because he's dead, a dead body, and secondly, what if he didn't have a good relationship with him? Like, that's not for her to be in interjecting that way, but just because he did it, she did it, and she kissed him on the lips, which is so weird, random. I don't know what customs that is from.
SPEAKER_03:That's just a made up because she was doing some worship.
SPEAKER_02:But you'll see, like, in the moment, it looks like she's almost getting something out of it, like she's getting a kick out of seeing him that tormented. Yeah, like she was very, very she was being a very pressureful person. Is that even? Yeah, and it didn't even sound like she was being pressure, but she was. She was even her face, like she's just someone that you want to slap.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so once they do make it home, she was like, Let's get hammered, y'all. Who's weird ass? Like, whose idea was that? He said, No, but who cares?
SPEAKER_02:She was asking a question of like, What do you what do you like to do for fun? And he's like, get hammered. And she's like, What?
SPEAKER_03:Okay, okay, let's do that. Let's do that right now. And he was like, What? So she busts out a bottle, and not only that, like they let Piper join. She was kind of making her like, Lo, she could drink too. Oh, drink this. And we almost thought, like, is she trying to get her drunk? Because she was mixing their drinks.
SPEAKER_02:She wanted him to get drunk too.
SPEAKER_03:So that was already like red flags for you as a watcher. A watcher, for you as a viewer, because it's like, what the hell is she trying to do? Like, why is she doing that?
SPEAKER_02:Now, a main point that we haven't brought up at all, but it's a very crucial one. She's a foster parent because I don't know why, but she's up to something. This lady is not right in the head, and it's good to note that she lost a child. Yes. And we haven't brought that up at all till now.
SPEAKER_03:And we should have kind of brought it up because in the very beginning, when she was assigning their bedrooms, she first, when she wanted to shoe away Andy, like she said, Oh yeah, your room's over there. She kind of like just like pointed at some random place, some closet or whatever, some weird ass Harry Potter under the I don't know, some place that looked kind of like he's like, Oh, yeah, it's kind of like bulky because it was like a bunch of crap, and then he's like, Oh, no, and then she went and to give Piper her room. It was a room that was already decorated for like a little girl, it was like super colorful, and it had like beads, and it had this like in the doorway.
SPEAKER_02:Now you look like that little girl had just been there, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And she's just having like flashbacks, right? So we realized that this child of hers was also blind, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So that all honestly plays into that obsession that she has towards Piper because it looks like it's reminding her a lot of her daughter, and she wants her to be here, and she's longing for that replacement, yeah. Which is kind of creepy. So at the end, when we're reaching that point of them wrapping up that day of the funeral, they're all drunk. Andy and her have like a one-on-one. Oh, wait, let me interject that this whole time, well, where's Ollie?
SPEAKER_03:Remember? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Ollie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so anyways, this whole time that they're at the funeral, doesn't she lock him? Ollie, yeah, he's like in some he's just forgotten about. Yeah, but doesn't he start like breaking the window, trying to get out?
SPEAKER_02:He's like possessed looking, like there's something about him that shows that he is not trying to get out or like he can't be alone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And she's like, Oh, he'll be fine, I'll be back. And then she leaves him, and then we're like, Dad, like she doesn't feed him, nothing, remember?
SPEAKER_02:And keep in mind she starts saying that throughout the movie a lot, like she starts comforting him a lot, saying, Oh, I know you're hungry, but not yet. Those are red flags. Like, what do you mean? Not yet, like maybe a damn sandwich. So that just shows you, like, what does he eat? Like, I mean, it starts to plant that seed, like, what is he waiting for? What is she waiting for? What kind of food is he like?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because at some point we start seeing, don't we see him like go outside and he starts like doing weird things like like he wants to kill a chicken and cat? His behavior is passed out.
SPEAKER_02:Scary. So the biggest mistake that Andy could have done, but again, he's only a child, and I feel like that old lady, she was very manipulative and she knew what cards to play from the start. Um, so keep in mind they're both drunk, they're supposedly under the influence. Yeah, but for your Piper, she's out, she passed out. But yeah, that wasn't very responsible of her. Like, supposedly, it's up to her to report if Andy's a responsible enough person. That's her job as a foster parent to also typically assess him. Assess him. That's the perfect word. But it's like, look at what she's doing. She's giving these minors alcohol to the point that they're blacking out, and then she has another little kid locked up, like, she doesn't want to talk. But, anyways, but like the worst thing that Andy did was honestly open up about the fact that he hit Piper because Piper doesn't recall this, and it just kind of shows how that's haunted Andy for a while. But he was coming from a place of like just trying to be open and also just trying to give um that girl Laura something back because she was opening up about her loss of her child and da-da-da-da-da. So they were just a moment of them like pouring into each other, yeah. Like, you know what? Like, we've both dealt with hard things or whatever, but she uses that against him because now she wants to frame him to make it seem as if he's like this violent person that's like losing it, but it's only because he disclosed um things, and they always say that in life like better not to say much to people because you don't know how they're gonna do it against you.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:But she did do a good job of trying to make this space where he could feel safe and open up. Like, she did a good job manipulating.
SPEAKER_03:She wanted to get information and she got it. We do see that when he goes and finally lies down, and we're like, what the hell is she doing at first? We see that she goes and pops a squat somewhere and she like starts. Peeing into like a tin, whatever, like some measuring cup things. I don't know what the hell it was. She starts peeing in one and she goes to his room, and when he's asleep passed out, she opens like his covers and pours it on him. Like in this crotch area, where obviously it whenever he does wake up, he's gonna think that he peed on himself, that he urinated. And the thing is that we used to remember because the first day that he was there, um, was it already like he saw the shower he didn't want to go in or something? It was before that. So, like he the reason he wanted to go and he like hurried up and like woke up and just like wanted to wash his clothes and made a load of um clothes to wash was because when he woke up, he looked down and he was like, What the hell? And you could see that he was wet from his pants or whatever. So he got up and he took like changed and he went to go wash. So this is the second time we see it, but this time we actually realize, oh, she must have done it the first time too, because in the first time it doesn't show that she did it. We just think he's having like issues and yeah, and he peed himself at night, he didn't even notice it, probably because some PTSD. But now we realize that this lady is doing this, and we're kind of confused, like, why the hell would she do that? But that's not all she does. The library, what else did she do? So at some point, she also goes to Piper's room and socks her in the face super hard and runs out. And we're like, what the hell? And you just hear Piper scream, she was sleeping, and then she comes out. You see that she has like a her eye, it's gonna be a black eye, like she is like super swollen shut. And she starts yelling at Andy, why did you do this? Like, how could you do this to her? I don't even know, like, if you're safe to be here and all this stuff, and he's like, What? Like, he's like, There's no way because even though he did black out, like he's like, I was not in her room, and she's like, Yes, you were in her room the other day, and it's creepy, and I don't know why you were in there staring at her, like something like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it sucks because this lady is obviously typing into some black magic stuff, ritualistic things, because she at the day of the funeral, she chopped off the dad's like hair, and she did some weird ritual where like the dad's ghost appeared to the son, Andy, but she notes this and then like he opens up saying, like, he just drops hints here and there of like what he is going through, but she totally is framing him and setting him up to be like this guy who's losing it that who's someone who can't like grieve the death of their father correctly. Doesn't she get the hair and feed it to Ollie? Well, I didn't I didn't get into the like how she did the ritual, but that I mentioned it. She did the ritual, but yeah, she did it weird. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's something up with her and Ollie and everybody, and then to make things worse, well, it confirmed things for us as a viewer, but it made things worse for them when she decided to take Piper shopping this one day. I feel like that was just a decoy for her to take Piper alone and tell her, like, hey, I think your brother's going through this, I think he's becoming more violent, he's going crazy. Because you know, Andy would have for sure like defended himself and said, like, no, that's not true. So she already like is trying to like paint this picture to Piper about her own brother. And Andy over here, like a sweet, a sweet guy, like he's over here staying with Ollie because basically encargado, like, here, like he's gonna be home alone with you. But of course, he's locked up. So just being a normal person, he probably was like, Oh, let me see if he's hungry, let me see what's up. So he knocked on his door, he's realizes he's locked in, he busts him out, and he's just like, Hey, you wanna eat? Like, uh, let's get some fruit. That ended up being such a chaotic thing for them because Ollie, again, he's like weird, like he there's something wrong with him. He looks like he's possessed, and he starts doing things that Andy did not foresee. Hell no. Yeah, like he had a knife with fruit, and just remember us when you watch this scene because it's not even worth like describing it because you have to just watch it, like, it's just horrific. But he's cutting fruit, he offers him a fruit on the knife. That's Andy's mess up right there, but whatever. This little boy instead of picking it off or whatever, like he just starts biting, like he first of all, he grabs a knife by the hand, so he's slicing his hand as he's like pulling it towards him, but then he starts like eating and biting the freaking knife, the sharpest point of it, and it's going in his gums between his teeth. Yeah, he's really messing up his face, and of course, Andy's having a heart attack trying to help him. But how do you help him? You have to take the knife away, and when you do that, you're cutting his hands and cutting his cutting more stuff, exactly. So he takes him outside in hopes to like get into the ER ASAP. And we've been seeing that there's like a ring of salt around that house, and we're not we've been around the block a few times with movies to know that that means that there's some witch stuff going on. Yeah, something is being kept in or kept out. Yes, shout out to Weapons. If you guys haven't watched that movie, it has it hints to that same ring. Um, that's another movie that we're gonna review later. But, anyways, Ollie starts like freaking having exorcism, like when he's out of the ring.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because he's gonna he he tries to like take them away, and when they cross that, he's like, you start screaming, and he never talks. And at this point, he's like screaming, right? Like he's saying help me, and yeah, he says help me at one point. Keep in mind that before this happened, because we skipped that part, but before our horrific thing with the knife and the fruit, Andy did say, like, oh, you don't want to talk? Like, oh, maybe you could write. Do you want to write? And he gives him like a piece of paper and uh a pencil, but he doesn't see it till later, right? Bird before he wrote, he wrote bird. So we don't know. Yeah, we're like, What? But when he we were outside, when we were outside, when he was outside, that was the first time that we heard him make any noise or say, but that's because he was having like a and it looks like he found normal normal for a second, right? Yeah, like his eyes look like he didn't look all weird, like like he actually made eye contact with like Andy, like a normal person, and then he says, Help me. Like he says it all like weak, like help me. And then, like, even Andy's like, What? But coincidence, that is literally when Laura is rolling up. Yeah, and she's having this heart attack.
SPEAKER_02:Like, what are you doing? Like, why is he out? And she's really driving her anger towards the fact of like you invaded my room, like you busted him out, and it's like, ladies, I know, like, just like to the hospital, like yeah, like he's bleeding from his mouth, like he's like in his arms and everything. Then they're allowing Piper's imagination to run wild wild because they're not explaining, yeah, and they just she just knows that he's like hurt or whatever. So it sucks because it also it's all falling into place. Like they're they're making it seem like Andy is losing it. When in reality, we know he's just the victim.
SPEAKER_03:And Andy, I think because he's not expecting all that, and also because maybe his age, he doesn't know how to like explain. Like, he doesn't take Piper and be like, Look, this is what's happening. This is happening, like he doesn't have a chance.
SPEAKER_02:Only because he's trying to censor her too.
SPEAKER_03:He wants her to think that there's no bad in the world or something, which is yeah, which is crazy because now he's the only one that's looking bad to her and it's kind of like messed up because Laura's plan is working.
SPEAKER_02:I can honestly see how having a disabled person in your life makes you want to cater to them a little bit more and go the extra length of making their life better. So it's like, oh, let's not worry them with like the truths and like the ugly world. But at the same time, he should have thought about it like this like, like, if homegirl could see, she would have seen this regardless. So yeah, let me just tell her straight up. Let me just describe it. Let me just tell her. Um, so we reach a point where it's kind of like an ultimatum for Piper. Do I go with my brother or do I stay here? Because he's saying, Let's go. Because he's had enough of her accusations and of the mistreatment, and he already knows that something's up. But she's kind of like she believes Laura a little, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:No, yeah, because she hasn't seen, so she can't see the things that she's done, and she still believes Ollie is normal. And all she hears is that Laura's saying, like, oh, he Andy hurt him and whatever. And then when Andy was getting like upset, he started like throwing things around and whatever. And one of the times, like, it looked like he was gonna hit Laura, but he didn't.
SPEAKER_02:Piper's over there allowed to enter like the vicinity where Ollie and Laura are, but she's kind of like, Oh, like, what's going on? Is he gonna be okay? Blah blah blah. Laura's over there doing like some rituals, trying to save whatever she had going on. So it looks like she wanted Ollie to be repossessed as she was doing the ritual. And we know this because she's re-watching like some VHS videos, like tutorials of very graphic things. Because actually, the movie starts off with that, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like it looks like she's following something, like a ritual, like she's following the instructions, and it's not it, yeah, and it's instructions that they're not really giving you instructions, she's just trying to recreate what she's watching. Like, it's not like they're telling you, like, they're not telling you what the instructions are, like, do this, do this. She's basically just paying attention and re-watching this thing, trying to make it happen because she wants the same thing to happen.
SPEAKER_02:Legit. And and it's in Russian, really? Yeah, it's in Russian, and it all comes down to like the fact again, she wants to befriend her so bad, so she's allowing Piper to come in, but she knows also she's not a threat because she can't see what she's watching, even like the home videos that she watches of her and her daughter. Like, it looks like she's really longing for her daughter to come back, and then hence the title, Bring Her Back. You can only assume, you can only assume that she's doing something to get her daughter Kathy back or Catherine. So Piper's all up in there, but Oblivious, not knowing, you know, what's really in front of her. And Andy just honestly put two and two together. Like, look, is this guy gonna go to the hospital or not? You know, like he's looking at the bigger picture, like, hey, if things were normal, we would be worried about Ollie's well-being, his safety. But she's just locked up in there. So there comes a point where he sees Ollie like super bloody, like in the worst state he's ever been. This whole time, we haven't seen him as bad as we do now. And he's ready to take a picture and be like, you know what? I'm gonna report this, and I'm gonna show Wendy and the police that you have this kid super unattended. So that's when what you said starts happening. Where Laura starts challenging him, trying to get his phone out of his. She's snatching him and hitting him, like not wanting her him to have that proof. So he ends up getting also very riled up. Yeah. But see, Piper's only hearing this, so she's just like telling Andy to stop. And Laura, doesn't she say she's making it like, Oh my god, stop, leave me alone. And when he wasn't even hitting her, like he wasn't even doing it. She was completely the aggressor, and he ends up sucking out this wall when it should have been her face, but he ends up sucking the wall next to her, and Laura's like, ah, ah, like if it hurt her or something. And he leaves that that's when he honestly walks away from the situation.
SPEAKER_03:And he's trying to leave with pipe where he's like, Let's go. And she doesn't want to because she's scared, like she thinks he did something, you know? And it's so sad.
SPEAKER_02:And then um, oh, remember too. We it's not even worth mentioning because you will witness it. But she's a weirdo because she clearly has no boundaries. Like his first day there, she tried to look look at his phone, and like, yeah, she's just a weirdo.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm just gonna insert this little like OMG moment. I don't remember in what order if we saw this, but it was one of the times that it was towards the middle slash end.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, don't worry about it. Now's a good time to reveal.
SPEAKER_03:Because um, Laura is with Piper and she's like, Oh, come here, you know, like this and that. She opens this, like, you know, those freezers.
SPEAKER_02:A meat freezer.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the ones that are like deep freezer. The deep freezer, yeah. The ones that are horizontal down at the bottom. Piper's touching, and she's like, What's in here? Like, what is this? Oh, what did she say? It's just meat. Oh, yeah, it's just meat that I keep in here, but obviously, like it was cold and there was like stuff. And then next thing you know, you look in, the camera pans to like the inside, and there's literally a corpse in there, and it's the little girl. And this is like they show us, I think it's like right after that they show us like a little montage of her imagining or remembering her when she was in the water, swimming, and whatever. And like, next thing you know, like she's there because she drowned in the pool. Then we find this out later. So she's imagining her in the pool when she was still alive and telling her that she's beautiful and all this stuff, and whatever. And literally, I think she's wearing the same little outfit, right? Like, she whatever she drowned in, like, she put it in the freezer like that.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't catch that detail, but that would that would make sense because she's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:So so no one even knows. Like that raises so many unanswered questions. And by that I mean like, well, did I mean people obviously know she lost a daughter because a lady Wendy does. So does she not have a funeral? How did she get her body in the freezer? She dug her up. I mean, yeah, well, I mean, we don't know that for sure. Like, they they never because she dug her up.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we know, yeah, kind of, because she told Andy that the way she coped was by staying at the funeral or at the cemetery that she couldn't leave. Because she felt that when she would leave, she would be like, She was abandoning her. No, she didn't know. She probably just took her out later. Like away.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Hell, that's not an easy feat to do, but you're still like no one's gonna notice you digging up a grave. Well, um, hello.
SPEAKER_02:No one's gonna notice that you kidnapped the child, um, Ollie. Um, she's going to limit.
SPEAKER_03:But also, in regards to Ollie, remember that at some point when Andy, shortly after that whole incident, when he tries to go and get help and he goes to that same lady, Wendy, and he's like waiting in the room. Remember, there's like missing posters on the things on the cabinet? And he jumps up and like, what the hell? Because he sees Ollie's picture talking about a missing child. So supposedly this child that she was fostering went missing, but he's not freaking missing because she freaking has him in her damn house all possessed and weird. And in the picture, he's smiley, looks normal, he has long blonde hair, and his last name is Bird.
SPEAKER_02:Bird. So, with this finding, it's enough for Wendy to start questioning Laura, and at that, she's not really down to do a big investigation because that lady used to work as a counselor at whatever company. Yeah. So she really trusts her as a colleague, as a friend, and she's basically saying, like, you guys are in good hands. And Andy swears by it, like, no, did you do any investigation on her? Like, did you not know where you sent us to? So she's forced to basically reach out. And I know that is protocol. Like, if you do make some sort of claim, you have to kind of take action. Yeah. So she was gonna call her, and Andy's like, no, let's just go together. So they go in person, and it's like at that point, they should have had a damn swap pulling up, you know? But those type of accusations, that's just me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because we see some policemen at some point and they don't go. They were like in the same building almost, right? Yeah, the police, like nobody thinks to like force the police to go.
SPEAKER_02:And I think it's just all Wendy's fault because she probably is downplaying the situation, hella.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because she does really think like there's nothing wrong. Some trusted person that you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_02:And then she keeps saying, like, oh, saying, like, oh, she's been telling me how you've been acting. All of those incidents that are clearly fabricated, it doesn't help his case. And yeah, I can't be saying Laura over and over. That sounds so weird. I'm gonna just say Laura. But then it sounds like I'm referencing myself. So I know. This is deeper than Laura. I just keep saying that lady. So then we're reaching a point where it's like the most climatic part, you could say, because Wendy marches over there, and oh my goodness, the scene prior to that.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, hold on, time out, time out really fast. But the thing is that it probably would have worked immediately, like her seeing, but Andy's trying to reach Piper, and he's calling her, saying, like, I'm so sorry, all this happened, and this and that. So he's saying that, like, you know, something nice. But the thing is like he comes clean with everything. Yeah, he's the story about the dad and what happened to him and everything. And even Wendy's like driving, but she's like looking at him, like, oh my god, like she's just feeling kind of sorry for him and stuff, like seeing his side of it. But that lady Laura had took Piper's phone before that. So the message that he was leaving Piper, we should see that she's listening to it. Like she's listening to this message. And the fatal mistake here is that Wendy, like before he hung up, she said something. So, like she said, we're gonna start this all out right now. Yeah, something like that. And it recorded. So when he hung up and Laura was listening to the message, she realized that Wendy was with him and that they were on their way. So right away, she starts, she jumps up and starts doing like a five-minute like clean, like the like her house was like upside down because of all the fighting they had, and then Ollie like destroying stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, Ollie was to blame because he was hungry or something. So he started trashing her whole house and he ate her daughter's cork. Is that what he was eating? Yeah, amongst other things.
SPEAKER_03:Like he was really Well, remember, he's he was like eating wood, and he was eating like the table, he was eating like and his teeth were coming out.
SPEAKER_02:And when he saw her and she was like, Oh, I know you're hungry, not yet. He attacked her. He bit her arm, he bit her, like he was in a very bad place, hunger-wise.
SPEAKER_03:So he wasn't eating normal things, like he wasn't, he would like go and get food and he would just like throw it on the floor, like he the whole gallon of like milk, and then like the cereal, like it would everything was thrown around, like he made a mess. Obviously, he wasn't hungry for that kind of food because he didn't need any of it, he was throwing it around. Who wants milk? 100% will eat cereal and milk. He's like, Who wants milk? Okay, so supposedly somehow she like cleans everything. So when they arrive, Wendy's like, Oh, let me go. Like, you stay in the car, type of thing. And he stays in the car at first, and then he sees Wendy go in the house. But obviously, because she got the heads up because she heard her in the background, and she did like a super like fast cleaning of the kitchen and living room area or whatever. Like it looked like normal, it didn't look as bad as how originally it was. And she was like, Oh, I was in the shower. Like she said some lie, like she was in the shower and this and that, and she had already wrapped her hands, so she I think she was she had her hand wrapped, so like you couldn't see where she was bleeding and whatever. And Ollie, she she thought she had locked him in the room, but remember, like he broke out like through the window, and his hands, like his arms were all bloody again, but he was over there like in the back shed doing god knows what. So she was giving her the tour, like, oh, sorry for my mess, just because she took her to the room and like her bed wasn't done. But it's like, dude, like you didn't even know what was going on right here before. And seemingly everything checked out, and she was like, Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disturb you. But then somehow she sees like that she's bleeding from her hand. Like the lady like does something with her hand and she's like, You're bleeding. And like, I guess she doesn't think of a life fast enough that Wendy starts like, Wait, wait a minute, like, what's going on? And by that time, Andy had came out of the car and he went to the back because he wanted to see where they were, so he was looking in the rooms.
SPEAKER_02:He knew that Ollie and the garage had something because Ollie would be back there, like coming out from there. He siempre salargava, he would always go to the pool back area, but now we know why. And he would like bang on the on that garage door where the body was. So I don't know if he would feed from her often or like. Well, he wanted to go in the body or something. Something. So he knew to go back there. He wanted to expose Olive, I think, first and foremost. But then he did the bigger discovery, like he saw him eating the corpse. So Wendy, her fat ass, can't even make it towards like she she basically has like a moment of combat with the foster lady because she starts tripping when she realizes that she's at the brink of getting caught. Especially because, like, how you said it wasn't adding up. Like, are you cut? Like, what's are you okay? And she starts holding Wendy hard, like, you know, we're good friends, right? Like trying to reassure that everything's okay, everything's gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_03:She kind of outs herself.
SPEAKER_02:She outs herself, definitely. And Wendy's like, Hey, you gotta let me go.
SPEAKER_03:But once But she starts saying stuff like something about like the kids, like, oh, but she's gonna help me bring her back. Yeah, this is that. Like, she kind of said it and Wendy's like, What? Like, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_02:Like, what the hell? Help, yeah, and then with everything that Andy said, like his account, what she was saying perfectly matched. So she really starts trying to flee at that point. But that lady tries to push her down the yeah, like I'm telling you, it was a combat, whole combat scene.
SPEAKER_03:It was a kill bill, it was a um a therman Lucy Lu.
SPEAKER_02:So sadly, Wendy doesn't make it far. Or Andy. Or Wendy. But Wendy was a funny one because she's like trying to skip slash run slash jog like her little body shape, and she was waddling as fast as she could out of that house. But she first went and saw Ollie. Like she saw him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She saw him. So everything was going according to plan, except for the fact that they didn't bring the Swatchy. So it's like, how can they defend themselves?
SPEAKER_03:And sure enough, they're trying to run to her little rain at that. Yeah, to her little van. And next thing you know, I don't know, Laura somehow got in a freaking car. And you see her like floor her damn, like her gas pedal to the metal type of thing. And boom, she like that was poor Wendy. She went flying. But she looked like Yeah, and Andy.
SPEAKER_02:It was just sad. It was just sad to see Andy's death because he tried to the very end. He tried to help Ollie, his sister. Like he really was just trying to get them out of a mess that he didn't put them in. Like, literally, that was just fake.
SPEAKER_03:He was just trying to help. Like he was trying to get them out of there, like save them, but like he couldn't.
SPEAKER_02:Another horror story of like these orphanage fosters. Which I bet that happens more than not. That's what I'm saying. It's like a tale of his time. But he did not get to live another day. Which me and you, we were both kind of like, is he dead? Like, did he survive? But you know, it made sense that he died because he got hit really hard. He got right over. And I just know that your body must be paralyzed and pain for some time. And since it was raining, there unfortunately was a puddle of water that created. So she didn't went the lady went an extra mile to like dunk him and drown him.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And there was no going back. Like he really couldn't defend himself at that point because he was very like impaired and weak. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So she drowned him in a puddle. That's sad. That was sad. That was sad. Like everything she does, you're like, what the hell is her frickin' problem? Yeah, like your child's dead. Just accept it. And obviously, at this point in the movie, I mean, obviously that we're at the very end. Throughout the movie, we realize that because of that little ritual that she's doing, that what she did was somehow trap her daughter's soul. Soul or something.
SPEAKER_02:But it don't look like that. It doesn't.
SPEAKER_03:She looks like an evil person. She probably trapped a demon in their neck.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I was telling you. I was like, I would rather have my family loved one be resting in peace rather than being in a human flesh over here hungry, over here, like unable to express themselves, like just being kind of zombies in a way. It's like, I would rather have them dead. Like, you know what, rest be at evil. Yeah. And that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03:It looked like it looked like she wanted to kill uh because at the end she did say to Piper, You're gonna I'm gonna put her inside you. Like she said something weirder. Piper was like, What?
SPEAKER_02:She said, I'm gonna have to drown you. Like she literally said, I've been afraid to tell you, I don't want to threaten you. But then she basically says her plan. Yeah, too. But keep in mind this also was another very sad scene because she only told her that because Piper started getting like piecing it together, like something feels weird. Finally felt Ollie's head, and it completely challenged the description that they gave from the beginning. Where's his curly red hair? Well, I mean, she couldn't see the color, but where's his like cute little face? She felt him and felt like this is not normal, and he remember his cranium was already like shape shifting, yeah. Like he he was like secreting like juice and like fluid, like he was not okay. So she felt like this being and was like, What's wrong? This is not so she knew like something is wrong, so she ran. But in running, she ends up being in the same room that her brother's in, and he's dead. And she was so she felt she yeah, she ended up realizing it was him, so it was really sad. It was one of the saddest scenes of the movie, just because she came to the realization that her brother is dead and it's at the expense of this foster lady that she once confided in. So it all just kind of kicked in, like, oh damn, like I am in trouble. So that's the only reason why she came clean, I think. Because she was like, Well, let me just tell you what's in my agenda since you already know all this.
SPEAKER_03:She felt like probably messed up that she didn't believe her brother, you know, when he was trying to tell her. But then he she realized at that moment, like, oh, this lady I can't believe anything this lady says when I think the the dawning moment for her was that that about like when she felt Ollie with like his shaved head, and she kept saying, Oh, he has curly, you know, red hair or whatever, you know, because it wasn't even true.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and she went on survival mode, which was funny to see, kind of, because you're just like, damn, like how was she gonna stand the chance? Like, she was like hitting herself, like, yeah, she kept like trying to fall, yeah. She was trying to run away, but she was like crashing. She was moving fast, like trying to run. But it's like, imagine being in the dark, like, where are you gonna go?
SPEAKER_03:Because remember in her original house, she was able to move fast because she knew where everything was, and this home was not her home like that yet. So she didn't know where she was. Basically, the lady didn't win, like she had her daughter right there in the pool, like a weirdo. She tried to drown her and everything, but it this ritual didn't work. Well, it didn't work because she was supposed to the ritual did not work at the end, and the lady got caught because the cops finally came. Like, I don't know who called them where the hell at the end, like yeah, paquet, but after everyone died, like that classic scary movie. I know in real life, too. The thing is that like she the she had to drown, like she was supposed to drown the girl, so Ollie, like the the soul trapped in all Ollie, would go into Piper, you know? So but that obviously didn't happen. Yeah, because that's what it that's what it showed in the that video.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay. Well, Ollie threw up somewhere else.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Ollie threw up somewhere else.
SPEAKER_02:And Piper was able to escape, like she was doing her best to survive, so things didn't go according to planned, and I think that's why ultimately the ritual didn't work. And the lady was just there in her own pool of sorrow with her real daughter's dead body, like just hugging her, embracing her. Like she was going through it, but it's like lady, you did all this for nothing. It didn't work either way.
SPEAKER_03:And then the only thing that was like the silver lining, yes, I know I'm gonna say was that Ollie was able once he threw up, and like I guess the ugly like demon, whatever, like was inside of him. He was able to run through the forest, and somehow he went to an area where they found him. And he they found him, and he's like, Who are you? He's like, My name's Oliver Bird, and like he actually said his name, and he was talking like a normal person finally.
SPEAKER_01:So he got saved, and so did Piper.
SPEAKER_03:And so did Piper. So at least Andy's death wasn't in vain. He actually did save them.
SPEAKER_02:He did, in a way, in a way.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, he halfway, like the they had to like also for themselves, but like without him, they wouldn't for sure. Like it would have happened that she wouldn't end up killing everybody, you know?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she was just uh dementedly stupid, crazy, ugly.
SPEAKER_03:Like, what's wrong with you? She was just like out of her mind to even think that because again, what you were saying, like okay, well, you want to bring your daughter's torture soul back because she's not the same. It's like it's like it's like it's like pest cemetery, like, oh yeah, you bring that person back, but they're like all weird and possessed and weird, like they're not the same person. I would rather not have that. Yeah, yeah, like let the person be. So that was the story.
SPEAKER_02:It has a play on like ghosts slash demonic, but it's somehow not that main focal point of this movie. It's more of a delusion of her. Yeah, like the real like the real try to see all the human being that is her. Hold on, let's pause. Okay. Oh, who's hitting my foil? Stop. As I was saying before, I was really interrupted like chirps. I think the focal point of this movie is far from the demonic ghost aspect of it. It's more so the deluliness and insanity of the foster parent. Like it's the threat is still another human being. It is not the ghosts and the ritual.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because a lot of horror movies, you know, usually the scary part is like the entity, the unknown thing, like you know. But this was But this one, she was the tormentor.
SPEAKER_02:And with that in mind, I would rate it, like, should you watch it? Yes, one time.
SPEAKER_03:At least at least.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But I would like it. It's not like, oh my god, it's the best movie, but it's not a B movie either.
SPEAKER_02:It's kind of like somewhere in between. This movie was created by the people who created Talk to Me. And Talk to Me is a very fun movie. Like, I really enjoy that one. Talk to me was better than this one, but this one still has an entertaining. Well, this one I think has more of like it's because this one's kind of like sad, you know. Like, what's the scare factor you would give it? At the end of the day, we are reviewing scary movies, so we have to tell our audience at what level of scary this is.
SPEAKER_03:How many screams? None, no screams. No, I'm saying like like how many bananas or how many stars you give it? Like how many screams? I'm like, there ain't no scream, no jump scares here, but there is like a level from one to five.
SPEAKER_02:How many screams do we give it? We always do one to ten. Honestly, I would give it the scare factor of like zero to one. It's not that scary. Like you could watch it with like a child, maybe.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yes, but keep in mind, like for a normal, not necessarily a horror watcher, they would probably be scared. Okay, like two? No. Entertainment wise. Yeah, okay. Think of someone in your family that never watches horror movies and would think would they be scared? Yes. No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02:I argue that. Like if that's what our opinions are for, and that's why.
SPEAKER_03:I I would give it a four. Like for general public, I would give it a four, which is still pretty low in the scare factor. It's good. I would give it like a one to two now, and that's pushing it. So a horror fan, you'd probably give it one to two in the scare factor. For general population, four to five. Well, I say one to one to two, you say four to five.
SPEAKER_02:What do you think? Let us know. Who was that crazy lap outside? And this leads us into the premise of this movie and making it scary was not the ghosts and goblins and demons. It was the witch. Which basically she's a witch because she was doing rituals, right? However, definitely put it on if you have a get together. It's definitely good. It's definitely a good watch. Scary movie night or something, definitely put it on. Consider it just because of the fact that it is entertaining and there is a good storyline that will keep you engaged throughout. So now it's time for our scary story.
SPEAKER_03:Now it's time for our scary true story segment. And today we have our guest, he actually has been with us before. He is a treasure trove of horror stories.
SPEAKER_02:For those of you that are tuning in for the first time, we're gonna introduce our recurring guest. Tell us, what is your name, a fun fact about you, and what do you love about Chica's Goku?
SPEAKER_00:Hello everybody, my name is Jorge Medrano Lopez. And a fun fact about myself, I love records. And I love 45, yes, to be exact. I love records, I love music. I like 45, so I collect them.
SPEAKER_02:He's being modest. He's a very famous 45 spinner. Yeah. Very famous 45 DJ spinner.
SPEAKER_00:Deep soul.
SPEAKER_03:And in some circles, people have heard of him. But uh pshiles.
SPEAKER_00:I'm one of the probably the only few deep soul collectors in Los Angeles. That's it.
SPEAKER_03:Woohoo!
SPEAKER_00:Shout out to Sick Jacket.
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SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So tell us. Tell us about that night. Because it was nighttime, right?
SPEAKER_00:I used to be uh delivery driver. I was a delivery driver for this company, and this particular night, I used to come out at no at five in the afternoon. That was my schedule. But this particular day or night, my manager had told me if I wanted to go to um Moreno Valley to look off some important product of and come back to the store, which was gonna be when the store closed, I was gonna hit off. I took two trips. Moreno Valley is what like stores away from Lake?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:My last trip back was already like around nine at night, and um came back to the store. The store is located um on the four or five uh free ramp. And there's nothing around that flight. I'll just bullet work. So um, yes, as soon as I there was no lights at all, it was the it was just dark. You can only see like a couple of the letters of the store. So I go in there with the van and I parked and I started on doing my free work. For some reason, I felt somebody was I thought what I was doing, I was looking around. Like I felt somebody was looking at me. I felt that present.
SPEAKER_03:So this is in the parking lot of your shops.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, correct.
SPEAKER_03:Under the freeway. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And in front of the ramps, yes, nothing around. Nothing just the freeway ramp. And the night is way different in the morning. I mean still going in the morning. So it looks different. Like I was like, there was nobody there. So as long as I put off the van, I always feel dark and the four or five. But they were like, so um, I was writing down my paperwork and I felt something looking at me. Like, so I looked up, I felt I was facing that way, so I thought was like dirt. And like bound, like the free stuff on the freeway.
SPEAKER_02:Like the little where there's like bushes and like trash. Right there, homeless people sleeping.
SPEAKER_00:Um yeah, so I was I felt like I feel looking at my back, it's so dark feet. But my manager told me, George, make sure you lock the van and take off the pallets from the back, the wooden pallets. Boom, not leave them inside, just in case supervisors come and see them. Then I don't know that I was using the van when I wasn't supposed to. So anyway, so.
SPEAKER_03:So you were using the van when you're not supposed to?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I did overtime.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, they didn't want to pay me under the table board.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, so am I already?
SPEAKER_03:Let's not talk about that. Yeah. Under the table, but let's not name no names.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, so for some reason, I'm not like that, but for some reason I did not want to get out of the band. I don't know what it was. Usually that's it.
SPEAKER_03:You just had like a bad feeling?
SPEAKER_00:Something like I met sure my doors were locked. We're like that. I was like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:Did you have a feeling of dread creeping up inside you?
SPEAKER_00:It was just weird. It was just weird.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like since you said that you felt like someone was looking at you, that's already like a human sense. You know, like us as humans, we have extra senses and we don't automatically know what they are. But I feel like that's one of them. Like you know your body knows that you're not alone. Oh, yeah. So that's part of why I think he didn't want to get out. Like he felt that from the start. Because you just said that you felt someone was looking at you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's kind of like animals, right? Like animals, they use all their senses because they're out in the wild, they don't talk, they don't speak.
SPEAKER_02:Us, we get so desensitized with with our No, but like this happened to me a lot where like I turn around and I'm like, dude, I knew somebody was looking at me, like they're staring in the eye.
SPEAKER_03:I know what you're saying, but that's what I'm saying. Like, as unless it's human beings and like in this world that we live in, we we're not out in the wild like we once were. But you know, like people, we are used to just like oh, okay, the obvious, like sight, sound, speech, whatever. But in reality, like we're still like mammals that are that have senses that we don't usually use, but they're still there, dormant, not used, whatever. And at some point, I do also agree, like, if you're not alone, whatever it may be, our body will tell us, you know, kind of like when they show deer in the wilderness and then they like look up, even though they can't hear, seeing the thing like they know something's looking at them, yeah, and it's like a person in the camera in Discovery Channel. So that was you, and you go with the deer with his little come see my eyes in the headlight.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, the only thing was that I could have been a it's a bum, or it's something like it's somebody like not a threat, right?
SPEAKER_03:Well, not a threat.
SPEAKER_00:That would have that would have said, let me get off and said he said forgotten man.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just kidding. Yeah, I would have been like unho- unhoused individual.
SPEAKER_00:If that were if that was the case or anybody human or something that was normal, I think I would have got off a bit like, you know, fuck it, you know. But somehow this was not like that.
SPEAKER_01:It was something like paranormal or like spooky, scary.
SPEAKER_00:It was just I can't, it was weird.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And I see stuff. I always see stuff, but this this one was Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, you've been our guest before, but we can reiterate the fact that you do have a sense like of of picking up on ghosts and paranormal activity. Like he literally does have a like a sixth sense. Yes. We haven't mentioned that, but he's known for that.
SPEAKER_03:He's known for that. Like where others may hear or feel things, he will actually see things during that time, right? Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So he has a heightened. So it says a lot that he's extra scared today.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, exactly. Because these, like, I see ghosts.
SPEAKER_03:These were not ghosts. Do you ever feel like you're used to that? Like, oh, it's okay. I see them all the time. Or do you still get scared?
SPEAKER_00:No, it's like I see them all the time, I'm good.
SPEAKER_03:No, you say you're so scared, this scared. Oh, I'm so scared. No, that's his trend.
SPEAKER_00:I forgot to. I'm getting abused here.
SPEAKER_03:Just kidding.
SPEAKER_00:No, I uh I just see them like whatever, but this for this turn night company, it was just weird. So I got off, but I just nope, I went back into the van and I called the manager. So that's the Bridget.
SPEAKER_04:So uh you're naming her. I know she paid you through the table.
SPEAKER_00:So she was like, so um, I called her, she's like, Wait, Bridget, is there any way I can take the van home? She's like, No, you can't. Just you know, so she goes, why? So I kind of told her, she's like, she's coming, Georgie. Georgie, you come on. I mean, you get scared. I just go, cool, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:So like manna type thing.
SPEAKER_00:Manna, yeah. So um Stop being a little bitch. So uh I started doing my paperwork. All of a sudden, here's where it starts. I look up and I see like uh right in front of me, like a light. I was like, what do I think?
SPEAKER_03:But 10 feet. Time for listeners, like 10 feet or 10 feet up with 10 feet.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so it's dark now, it's dark, dark, and I saw like three lights started appearing, and those lights became like flames just in the air. I'm like, what the okay? I thought again, just the bumps over the fire, like you know, burning something or burning like cigarette.
SPEAKER_03:Transient.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. So I'm like, huh?
SPEAKER_03:No. She's transient. No, that's another word for bums.
SPEAKER_00:Fucking bumps for like So I was looking out, I was looking, I'm like, what the fuck is that? I'm like, shit. And then out of nowhere, I saw, they were tall. They were real tall, and they were all in black. Oh in black. And they just appeared, and they were the homeless people? Nobody. So there was the homeless people.
SPEAKER_02:But like you saw a figure appear?
SPEAKER_00:The figures were just appeared out of nowhere, like they disappeared, like, oh shit. Like it ran in front of my eyes out of nowhere, out of midair.
SPEAKER_03:They were near the candles?
SPEAKER_00:At the end, they were holding the candles. It was seven of them. Damn. Five of them were standing up, holding the candles, looking up, and two of them were on one knee with the candle like that. And I'm like, what? Oh shit. And that's what I was like, oh hell no.
SPEAKER_02:Um, you did mention that they were tall, like.
SPEAKER_00:They were really tall. They were tall. They were not human. They were tall. They were really tall. So not like people. Not people. They were not people. They were tall.
SPEAKER_02:But did they look like giant, like as high as tall as a tree? Or like, or they were just like big, like like otherworldly beings.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they were tall. Like, probably like two feet. They were like that. But they were not moving. They did not move at all. So, so I have this good friend, Julio. Who's up? He knows about that. So I called him, hey, Julio, what's up? Told me, like, where you at? So I told him about what was going on. So I was trying to have my phone, so they won't see the light. But he told me, George, they know you're there. They're allowing him to see them, okay? I'm like, oh.
SPEAKER_03:So So basically you were trying to hide your phone or to keep it, like record them like hiding.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, I didn't want him to see the light. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:So your friend Julio's like, if they're if you could see them, it's because they know you're there.
SPEAKER_00:Correct. That makes total sense. Correct. And they're letting you see them.
SPEAKER_03:Like, I know you know that we know that you know.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds like a ritual. I was like, what? It was a ritual. And those then goes, they're demons. Yeah, bro. So you told me what's don't tell me. But whatever you're doing in life or whatever you're stop. I was like, what? Tell me I'm not. But like I said, I don't want to hear it. It's none of my business. You know what you're doing, stop. And what were you doing? Who knows? Well, that should come out again.
SPEAKER_03:So he's like, I'm not doing nothing for that to come out.
SPEAKER_00:So he's not serious, or she goes, because next time, that's how rituals you're doing for you. That next time. So you can involve you? You're done. And I was like, That's scary.
SPEAKER_03:I was like, what? He told you that while you were there?
SPEAKER_00:I was right there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so I was like, Like, sorry, Bridget is van home.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so we I go, you know what? Um, this is a this is a trick part. I grew up, I'm gonna record them. He goes, Yeah, record them, see what happens. He goes, you know what? Say a prayer. But for some reason I couldn't. He ended up on me and I turned, but I just couldn't. I was actually scared to do a prayer.
SPEAKER_01:Out of your wits.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I thought they were gonna like like mad or you were gonna provoke them when I said I mean I know people were not gonna be like, oh it happened to me. No. You know, oh you should go on a prayer because um if God's there, no. At that time.
SPEAKER_02:It's easier said than done. Like you had to be there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they were really easy, you got to feel their
SPEAKER_02:It's pretty cool for comfort.
SPEAKER_00:Here's the part here's the thing. So I got my iPhone, I recorded them. Like I recorded all the like the scene. And I saw my iPhone and I sent it to my friend. So same guy. Oh I sent it to him, whatever. There's um something on the bushes all around the, you know, like weed.
SPEAKER_02:Like not weeds, but like the ones that yeah, yeah, yeah, like bushes.
SPEAKER_00:They started looking like gargoyles. I swear to god, I was like, oh yes, like no people were gonna be like, oh, this was long or no. I was good. Like that's that's what people don't understand. Like you're hallucinating. Yeah, you're hallucinating. So um I had called an Uber. Three times the the Uber dropped, the signal. It said um Uber canceled because it dropped the signal. I was like, oh shit, like they couldn't find me. They could not find me. So they canceled. So finally one got through. So I was there for like what? Like an hour and a half watching these guys the whole, but they were not moving. They did not move at all. They were just looking up in the sky and they were looking at the.
SPEAKER_02:Like you said, you you were kind of in agony because you felt like if I move or if I do anything, like they're gonna recognize that I'm here and look at me or do something.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Even though in retrospect, we feel like they knew, right? They were there purposely to get some kind of reaction. React something.
SPEAKER_00:So what Uber Cause was um, um I'm here, and I saw him. But he had to pick me up, he had to go inside the parking lot. I saw him and I did not want to come out. I go, Can you come in the parking lot? He's like, What? Oh, you get coming, can you come in the parking lot? It was like around 11, so it's dark, and he's like, uh, but he came in. I got up the van, parked, and I went straight to the room.
SPEAKER_04:And they were still there?
SPEAKER_00:They were still there. So when he was driving off, he goes, You okay, sir? And I go, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I go, Look, look, uh, that was a passenger already. Another one?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you got like over shirt? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So it was a lady. They looked at me like, You okay? I go, no, look, look. And when we're leaving, I go, look at that, and they were like, What, look at what? I go, look, look. You don't see nothing? And they were like, No, man. And the guy's like, looking at me, like, you know, you had a long day, just go home and relax. You go, you don't see that? So when I was leaving, dance when they turned, they were just looking at it.
SPEAKER_03:They looked at you?
SPEAKER_00:They tried to look at me, but I didn't I didn't want to see her face.
SPEAKER_02:So you saw them turn to you. Yeah, like now they acknowledge you.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. So the lady got off first, then it was me. But when I got off, I thought, yeah, thank you. He he was just like.
SPEAKER_03:So I get home, he's he thought, like, oh, this was a long one. Yes. Or he's like tripping. So I okay.
SPEAKER_00:He's crazy. So let me. Oh, I forgot a big, big when I was recording to send it to my friend. Here's the trivial part. Because my homeboy told me, Well load you, you can record them, but I don't know if they're gonna let you.
SPEAKER_03:But he's gonna translate. Yeah, like give him a you're gonna be able to see it, right? In the screen.
SPEAKER_00:Well, not not only was I able to see him, but I saw, how can I explain to you? I saw something on the screen that wasn't there.
SPEAKER_03:So you saw more things in the screen on the lens?
SPEAKER_00:Nonetheless. What I saw recorded, and I looked, it was like a cemetery. And it had like crosses and um and like little like sticks and candles everywhere. I'm like, what? On the iPhone? Yeah. And I look, and now it's like if we take a picture right now, and you see like fucking lights, you see, you don't see them on the screen.
SPEAKER_03:So as you were moving your phone recording, you could see something totally different on your screen.
SPEAKER_00:When I put plates, if I recorded, it was.
SPEAKER_03:So it stayed on your phone? Were you able to send it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I stayed on my phone, I sent it to my friend. That's streaming. I was like, I'm out. And that's it, I'm out. That's when I know something like sinister, like something like evil. Like, okay, when I got home, talk to my homeboy five. Text him, I go, Wait, um, did you get it? He goes, I didn't get nothing. I go, what? I said to you, he goes, I didn't get it. When I recorded it, not only did I send it to my friend, but he said, Well, let me see if they come out. Not only they didn't come out, the video, like it was, it didn't come out. It was like that there. But what?
SPEAKER_03:So you remember recording it then?
SPEAKER_00:I remember recording it, so when I saw it, it was there because when I saw it, I mean that was told. And I'm like, that's what it's all like. I didn't receive nothing, George. Let me see. Let's see again. He goes, nope, I didn't receive nothing. I'm like, but it's right here. I'm like, oh, wait.
SPEAKER_04:Nothing.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, it was like if I was in the like on the twilight zone. Yeah, like in another, yeah, like even when the the rubber guy though, he was looking at me like, damn, get the look at my get out of here. Like, that was nice, like, uh, you also. I don't know how he saw me when I came out the van. I'm pretty sure he was like, What's wrong with you? Yeah, like what's wrong with like that? He goes, bro, what are you looking at? I go, damn, damn, look, look, look. He's like, bro, yeah, bro. Long day, just go home and relax. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm trip, bro. So this day, that phone doesn't turn on no more. My phone shot off and then not turn and I still have it at home.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna say that with the phone, I remember that when this was still working, you said that you were going into your camera role and in the messages, yeah no padded, it was not that it was like no, like the file wasn't there. And like, um, you know how there's recently deleted on iPhone? Like he said it was as if he never recorded anything. Like it was no trace of it.
SPEAKER_00:No trace of it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Sounds crazy.
SPEAKER_00:So um, yeah, my friend called me like what, like two days did it or not.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to the Uber.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out to Uver. Mom would call me like later saying that um he he um he checked and like before it was uh the store where I was, it's a paint store. Found out that it was a crematory place. Crematory. I was like, what? Yeah, bro. And that's uh and that right there was a cemetery, but they took it off and built the freeway there and all that. But back days, it was a cemetery, and that building it was uh crematory.
SPEAKER_03:Dang.
SPEAKER_00:So then he told me something, okay, George. For some reason, they want to let you know that they're there. So he told me, just like I advise you, like, do not stay there late no more. I go, okay. And he goes, then um, just don't. If you stay late or like just don't look, don't even turn around because you may see them something that you don't want to see. And I was like, oh and yeah, I never stay they've asked me, I'm like, hell no. And um, yeah, I never stay there one, nope, that was it, that was the last day.
SPEAKER_03:Except for drug, that's it. You're not saying that.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I'm gonna say now.
SPEAKER_03:The light streets come on, you're leaving. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, and if you guys do that right now, it's creeping. Yeah, people used to come up to the store sometimes. Like, because I'm really like, hey, what is like what's going on here? What this feels weird in here.
SPEAKER_02:Hopefully, to accompany this particular story, he actually took a picture of the storefront, and that picture did um capture like a ghost uh child. So we have that file. I still have it, I still have it. Available. Hopefully, we can show it. Okay, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_03:So once we do have that website, we'll be definitely posting it.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but no, yeah, like that whole that whole area seems to be haunted, and you're the gifted one that is lucky enough or cursed enough to see it.
SPEAKER_03:Gifted in quotes, gifted.
SPEAKER_02:And I remember, like, hey, how old are you right now? Like 49. So at what it was like a year ago, two years ago? To see like a grown man that scared and that wake him up. It was weird because he he stayed like that for like a a while, like more than a month.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I remember I forgot about that. Yeah, I remember. I didn't.
SPEAKER_02:I'll never forget how you were acting. You were like actually scared, like to go to the front porch, like to see it again. I was a good one. Yeah, like just to see like anything. Anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He was really spooked.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was crazy, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:TSD. That sounds really, really scary. I don't I really don't know what I would do if I don't know. I think I would have like said, you know what? Uh if I'm gonna get fired or they're gonna call the cops on me that I sold the van, uh so be it. Because I think I would have left.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, but I didn't expect that to happen.
SPEAKER_03:I thought it was No, of course not. But I'm saying, like, once you saw something, like, I don't know if I would have been able to hang this day there.
SPEAKER_02:Because you were there for a long time and I'm sure every second felt eternal. I think I would have cry and start praying. I know you said you couldn't.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I couldn't.
SPEAKER_02:But I would have I think I would have thought, like, let me try, because you would think that God can help you or like repel it, you know.
SPEAKER_03:At least, like, don't let me see it. Right?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, of course, God will, yeah, we wouldn't even got of course, but why couldn't couldn't I? Does that mean that evil was stronger than I did? I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:It just depends. I mean, maybe it has some strength, but you would have to like really overcome it. Like, you would have to like focus and do it. But if you felt scared to do it, then it was just because you were scared.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's what I always think with me. Like, why was I scared to break?
SPEAKER_03:That like oh because you probably knew that that was not just like any little ghost. Like, you know, sometimes you have seen a ghost or you thought you saw something on a stream, you're like, Oh, I just saw something and whatever, and it's scary. But maybe if these beings were actually worse, like a higher um comes, like some notches up of being like scary or evil, then this like my concluding thought is that you might have been able to see like another dimension or like something that was that you were seeing like kind of like from Stranger Things.
SPEAKER_02:Like in Stranger Things, there's like the under the underworld version of the world, if that makes sense. So I feel like you were able to see like the spiritual, um the spiritual realm, the spiritual realm that most humans can't sense, or like that's correct. Like what stayed there, like the energy that stayed there.
SPEAKER_00:It's the whole that made me realize that that what you said right now. That's that like we're only a speck, this world, like we're nothing.
SPEAKER_02:In this universe, especially because you saw being so tall, like that big.
SPEAKER_00:So empower, like like they were if they really wanted to, yeah, and then and then people will commit what if they really wanted to, though, like man, and then people below suicide or over.
SPEAKER_03:I always think that. I think that a lot, and I think I've told you this too. Yeah, and I do have that little theory that there's a lot of people that commit, and I'm saying, you know, air quotes here, that commit suicide that I feel like a lot of them weren't, because sometimes it's been reported that they were like scared, that they used to see spirits and whatever. Obviously, people didn't take them seriously, they didn't believe them, and it was ruled out they were schizophrenic or whatever because they took tests and they're like okay. No, they're just tripping. A lot of those sound like it would be like possibly some kind of otherworldly thing that was affected, and it just since there's no explanation, and it looks something like they did something to themselves. People will rule it like a suicide. But I think sometimes there's people that do not commit suicide.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:My conclusion is that this is one of those stories or slash hauntings that you don't want to happen again. We joke around, like, oh, let's share your story, like hopefully something happens. We say it to some people, like some of our kids, like to come back and talk to us. But this is definitely one of those stories that we hope never happens to George ever again or anybody because it obviously left an eternal impression. And I don't think our small human minds and bodies are equipped to take on an interaction like that. And I just hope that it doesn't happen to you again. And if anything, it shows that you are strong because you were able to get through that night and be here today.
SPEAKER_03:I agree. There's people that see ghouls or they get haunted and this and that, but like to see something and see beings that are there and they're like, they don't disappear, they're looking, and then like when you leave, you're the one to leave, and they're they turn around and look at you, you know? Because usually there's no way around, like, you might see something and it just like fades away or it goes away, like, oh, I blinked and it was gone, or whatever, you know. People might see like glimpses of things, but for them to be like there and then to top it all off, like you're trying to record something and you see extra stuff, it's like dang how what am I tapping into?
SPEAKER_00:And they're making it happen.
SPEAKER_03:They're allowing you to be that's really, really scary.
unknown:Woo!
SPEAKER_02:Well, thank you for making the time and being our guest once again to our podcast. And we hope to have you again because I know you think you're full of stories, a lot of stories throughout your lifetime. And so be careful.
SPEAKER_03:You never know where there was once a cemetery, you never know what little beings and weird things are lurking or what exists on the other side. We want to thank everyone all around the world, our wonderful listeners that love her just as much as we do, because without you, it would just be me and Laura talking to each other, but still watching scary movies, so that's not bad. But we also want to add that we want to hear your scary story. If you've encountered, if you've been haunted, if you have something spooky that you would love to share with us, we would love to hear it. We would love to put it on our podcast. Please call the Chica Skukui hotline, which is 310-910-1439. Once again, Chica Skucui 310 9101439. You can also visit us at Chika Skuckui Podcast.com to listen to our latest stories there and also leave a message.
SPEAKER_02:I second that. Yeah, thank you. Stay tuned for the next episode.
SPEAKER_03:Bye. I don't know. I didn't name them.
