Bloodlines: The Unstoppable Chain of Final Destination review/ Campfire edition story: 3 Siblings confront witches in Mexico

7/3/25- Laura and Esme take a deep dive into "Final Destination: Bloodlines," exploring how this fifth installment breathes new life into the franchise with a brilliant generational twist that sets it apart from its predecessors.

When college student Stephanie experiences recurring nightmares about a 1960s disaster at the Sky View restaurant, she uncovers a terrifying truth: she and her family exist only because her grandmother had a premonition that saved lives six decades ago. Now death has finally worked its way through the survivors' list, and her family is next. This isn't just another tale of outrunning fate – it's about confronting the reality that some bloodlines were never meant to continue.

The hosts break down the film's most memorable death sequences, particularly highlighting the innovative MRI room scene that combines practical effects with digital enhancement for maximum impact. They  analyze how the recurring motifs – from a traveling penny to Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire" – create a cohesive narrative thread connecting past and present.

A poignant highlight of their discussion centers on Tony Todd's final appearance in the franchise, including his unscripted, heartfelt message delivered while he was ill before his passing. This meta-moment transcends the film itself, adding unexpected emotional resonance to what could have been just another horror sequel.

7/11/25- The episode concludes with a special campfire edition true horror story featuring three siblings, Claudia, Adriana and Jorge, who recount their childhood encounters with floating witches in rural Mexico and possible alien visitations – and a real-time while recording haunt visit, proving that sometimes reality can be just as chilling as fiction!

Send us your own scary stories at chicascucuy@gmail.com – your experience might be featured in an upcoming episode!

Chapters

• 0:29 Welcome to Chicas Cucuy
• 1:09 Bloodlines Overview and Premise
• 6:44 RIP Tony Todd
• 9:44 The Sky View Disaster Sequence
• 23:18 Stephanie's Recurring Nightmare/Uncovering Grandma Iris's Secrets
• 32:01 The Farce of July: Personal note from Esme and Laura
• 33:59 Death's Domino Effect Begins
• 43:27 The MRI Room Tragedy
• 48:14 Racing Against Death's Timeline
• 54:35 Death's conclusion
• 57:14 Commentary on CGI/ Overall movie rating
• 1:02:09 True scary story: Campfire Edition (Discretion advised)
• 1:02:55 Claudia, Adriana and Jorge's visit Mexico as children
• 1:03:36 Crude silliness... Cinco de Mayo rancho, in Tamaulipas, Mexico
• 1:06:26 The 3 siblings and the ghost witches (Las brujas hermanas) at the cemetery
• 1:20:53 Sibling's possible eerie alien visit in South Central Los Angeles, California
• 1:27:51 Claudia sees apparition behind her REAL-TIME during interview!
• 1:29:54 Let's process all this.... 🤪and follow up questions
• 1:33:14 Adriana talks about alien ancestors, indigo children, start child/seeds
• 1:36:07 UFO's, witches, and ghosts... oh my!
• 1:40:17 Laura and Esme campfire edition stories wrap up

Transcript

Laura: 0:29

The Hello listeners. I'm Laura and I'm Esme, and we are Chicas Cucuy. Thank you for tuning in to our podcast.

Esme: 0:38

This is a podcast dedicated to horror movies and real life cucuys. We take a deep dive into the horror film world and bring you the latest and greatest and sometimes the not so great. We will give you our cinematic reviews and insights to what makes them so terrifyingly good. And please beware of spoilers.

Laura: 0:53

We want you to be happy hearing us, not mad at us for telling you what happens, and after each session we'll feature a real life scary story.

Laura: 1:00

If you have one to share, we'd love to hear about it and, hey, it may even end up in one of our episodes.

Esme: 1:09

Tune in if you dare.

Esme: 1:17

Hello everyone, welcome back. Hey, I know there was a large gap. We're gonna get back to doing it at least twice a month. If you're lucky, maybe more. I know we started off slow, but thankfully the season is up to a good start. So, as we said last time, we're going to be reviewing

Laura: 1:34

Bloodlines

Laura: 1:35

the most anticipated film for all the what generations, Gen.

Laura: 1:40

Everybody knows Final Destination movies. They've either traumatize you and you hate them, or you love them Because they're fun. Yeah, I feel like it was the most anticipated film of the year. It was because when did?

Esme: 1:51

they first start 2009 or no 2000. The first one was in 2000.

Laura: 1:55

That's crazy. That's when I was born.

Esme: 1:59

That's crazy. Time flies 25 years later. Woo, that's crazy. Okay so, and I'm almost 25. I know we have a birthday coming up soon, so everybody send Laura sushi. Money.

Laura: 2:13

Yeah, sushi money for a spicy tuna roll.

Esme: 2:16

Okay, so, anyways, let's get to it. So this is a really fun movie, as we said, because these movies generally are fun, but this one did have a different twist than all the other ones. So let's just go over the little overview. I sounded kind of like Grease. No, before the commencement of the commencement, we're going to overview the overview. Okay, so, anyways, plagued by a violent and recurring nightmare, a college student heads home to track down the one person who might be able to break the cycle of death and save her family from the grisly demise that inevitably awaits them all I think it was a really clever approach that they took to this movie, because the storyline for every final destination usually is always that someone is living life and they experience a premonition.

Laura: 3:02

So then, since they are the ones that intersect and avoid, like all these deaths to take place because of it, like they, basically save everybody's life yeah, they have like a freak out of some sort.

Laura: 3:13

Then that's when the characters get knocked off one by one because death takes revenge. But in this movie there was actually I mean, there was a premonition that took place. But the main protagonists, the main characters of the movie, they themselves never had a premonition, and that was something that I remember thinking like, oh, that's cool, because I was waiting for it to happen. But then it clicked. I'm like no, it's not going to happen with them. And I thought it was really creative on their part, because in this movie what it, what it really boils down to, is that they are the descendants of someone who had that freak out slash premonition. So since they were saved, and because all these other people were saved, I guess it took a very long time for death to get rid of them in chronological order like it normally does like it literally took 60 years because supposedly, whenever this premonition happened the original one that you're talking about it was in the 60s.

Esme: 4:08

It was like 1960. I'm not gonna say 65 exactly, but it was in the 60s okay so yeah.

Laura: 4:14

So then now they're just like living their life, normal people, and they're just coming to terms with the fact that they were never supposed to exist, because in their bloodline hence the title of the movie uh, you know, like it basically their bloodline continued and extended and you know, like a family tree, like it kept branching off, it kept growing but that whole thing, like that whole family tree was never supposed to be continued.

Laura: 4:38

It was supposed to be cut a certain point in the 60s, so it was a really, really creative approach. If I was in the writer's room, I think I would have been, like, really excited for, for, like, the production, yeah, like for like to see it come to life, because I think it's a cool storyline. Like I'm really geeking out about that,

Laura: 4:54

yeah because I do like the fact, like I mean all the other final destinations, I mean they've had their own twist, I mean, so they were never boring, even though you already know, okay, everybody like is going to see and then everybody's going to follow and listen to them or not listen to them. And of course it started with that one plane crash, right, and the crazy part is that even in this movie, at some point they show them that number. What is it? The 180? 181 or something? We should be more prepared. Flight 180, I don't know. 187. Yeah, more prepared. Flight 180, I don't know. 187. Yeah, whatever it is, those numbers still appear, even in this movie. So, like they still went all the way around to connect everything.

Laura: 5:32

And I'm wondering, because I don't remember this, but like all those other people that had premonitions, were they part of that? Like all the other final like, were they trying to insinuate that some of those had something to do with that? Because supposedly that's when dead started having to chase people around, that they wanted dead because they weren't supposed to be alive. So do you think there was that underlying plan that for death to start affecting people all the way down to that blight? Oh, I never, yes, remember the grandma. Well, I mean, again I'm jumping ahead and I and I don't have a lot of memory of a lot of stuff, but I do remember this. There is a part of the movie that she has like a scrapbook of things and this is a grandma that they think is crazy, which actually is the young girl in the 60s that they all come from. They had the premonition, but she kept track of everybody and everybody's life and how everybody ended up dying and in that scrapbook I remember there being something about that flight.

Laura: 6:25

Really yes. I remember seeing a plane, but I thought it's that one. It never said no title or number of it.

Esme: 6:32

I think it did Because she had articles and stuff.

Laura: 6:35

Oh, then that's an Easter egg that I did not catch, okay.

Esme: 6:37

Well, what do you guys think? Did you guys watch it? Do you guys remember that part? I think we should re-watch soon, yeah, just for the sake of that. Okay, so let's get anything else that we should discuss before we get to the story yes, definitely.

Laura: 6:51

There is a shout out that we want to do to tony todd, because he's now with death himself rest in peace.

Esme: 6:58

Tony Todd, and he came out in so many great movies. Uh, the first one that I remember seeing him in is candy man. That's the first movie that I was like super young. Let me see, when did that come out? 1992, wow, and that's how I remember him first and I thought he was creepy back then. But then he came out in like, uh, final destination, the 2001 on the first one and then the other ones too. And he also came out in like night of the living dead, transformers, the crow, 1994, which that's crazy. I don't remember him in that wish master. That's like a old scary movie to 1997 hellfest, hatchet, two tales from the hood, three that one came out in 2020. A lot of movies, but a lot of them are horror. He's like super, super cool.

Laura: 7:41

he was really sick during filming and if you watch the movie you can see that he's sunken in. He's very fragile looking. So it was. It was a moving scene, just because you're able to see him withering away as you watch it and then just knowing that in real time, like he's no longer here. Um, the best part of this movie, I think, was that they gave him the opportunity to say like his last words from the heart. It wasn't scripted and this is what he said. I intend to enjoy the time I have left and I suggest you do the same, because I just remembered something. I'll tell you guys right now. Okay, I'm like, why is that funny? Oh my God. Then he says life is precious. Enjoy every single second, you never know when. Good luck. And it's like he knew he was going to die soon.

Esme: 8:29

He knew he was sick. It was so moving. It was because that's going to stay like his little signature sign off. What are you laughing at?

Laura: 8:36

Because I was telling my sister while we were watching this movie that he was going to have this like scene where he says things that were unscripted and that it's from the heart. I was literally preparing her with what I just said right now on the podcast. But before he says that he's talking, he said I don't know if he said like, like, don't fuck with death or something. But she looks at me like was that it?

Laura: 9:01

like I hyped it up so much, saying like it's gonna be like heartfelt like like it's, it's cool, like it's a heartfelt yeah thing that he, that he does at at the end, like when he's leaving, but she didn't know when. You know it was exactly. But he said something like funny, like something that she was over here looking at me like was it that? Like was that the? Was that the message that he wanted to leave behind? Don't fuck with this. I'm like no, I just started laughing because I remembered that oh my god, yeah, that's funny.

Esme: 9:30

And, for the record, she's 12 years old, so, yeah, so that makes it funnier, right? Yeah, and did you know that he was in marvel spider-man 2? He was the voice of venom, oh, no, I didn't know that.

Laura: 9:41

I love venom. Yeah, that's pretty cool. So let's get into the opening scene. Yes, I especially loved that it's catered to my fears, because I'm scared of height, I'm scared of everything, I'm scared of life.

Laura: 9:56

No, most importantly, I'm scared of heights and like I'm not crazy with elevators, but like it always crosses my mind, like if I'm going too high in the elevator, like, like, have you ever been in a in a tall building a year, like? Or the medical office, and they're like, oh, go to, like the 12th floor. Have you ever stayed at a hotel where it's like, oh, I'm staying on the 30th floor. I'm like, uh, I don't want to be all the way up there I know like how was the elevator?

Laura: 10:18

yeah, I don't like it and you're like it's happened where I stay in a room and I know I'm elevated and I'm trying to go to sleep and I'm like, oh my god, I'm still high up, like you're very aware. Yeah, so our first characters are iris and paul, so they're a couple in the 60s that are going on a very special date to a skyscraper thing restaurant called the sky view.

Laura: 10:38

It's like the newest thing, which is to like have dinner and, yeah, have a good time up in the air dancing and it was like a fancy thing, but it's like a really high building, like it's supposed to be, like. I guess that's part of the experience to see the whole city, or like beautiful views, but I don't know.

Laura: 10:52

I would not want to be there so anyways, yeah, because it looks like a cylinder, right like a cylinder, and then like, yeah, it looks like in sea world there's a few amusement parks that have that like regular elevator that goes up and then it goes down but it's like an observatory almost, yeah, like it's slow, um, but that one, it was an elevator that shot you up to like this regular base, that was a restaurant bar and and it was finished like eight to five months ahead of schedule, which was like the first red flag, like should that have happened? Question mark, like what?

Esme: 11:22

did you guys? What did you guys make you mouth? What did you guys not put in here, like, what did you guys skip over?

Laura: 11:26

so they were on their way to a really nice date that our boy, paul, had put together because he was gonna propose to her. We realized that and then we also find out that she's pregnant. It's a secret. So it was like a really nice uh moment and time at first because you see, like oh, it's a young couple and like they actually probably could make it, like they actually seem to be like really in love, and isn't that like the best case scenario? Like oh, I'm pregnant.

Jorge: 11:49

And then he's asking me to get married and he's asking me to get married.

Laura: 11:51

Yeah, like it was, like a cool couple Like they look, like they were meant to be together forever, but I.

Esme: 12:00

You can plan a pretty picnic, but you can't predict the weather, yeah, yeah, basically.

Laura: 12:05

So I mean, there's a lot of details that arise and like are they important?

Esme: 12:09

Yes, they are important but, as we know, Only because, like, they start reoccurring later.

Laura: 12:14

So that's how you catch on. Like, oh, death is around, because he has like a way of like playing the same song for you.

Esme: 12:30

Or like giving giving you warnings or something like you just know that he's around, uh-huh. So was that one song that was playing um it's the one that you always make me wanna shout?

Laura: 12:32

no, let me shout. Yeah, that's when they were stomping and they almost I'm not there yet, oh, I'm talking about, like in the radio, when they were putting up the radio, oh, oh, ring of fire. So ring of fire is like a staple, like a motif in this film, because they keep replaying it. Um, but the one, yeah, but the one that you're talking about by the icy brothers, right, yeah?

Esme: 12:47

okay, but no, but this was the the johnny cash one.

Laura: 12:49

Yeah, we're talking about the johnny cash song right now, but I'm saying, the one you mentioned was izzy brothers yeah, which was when they were actually in the building. So yeah they. They pull up like in a red car. Is it an impala?

Esme: 12:59

yeah, is it an impala right, it's a red I don't know what year I couldn't make it out I don't remember I remember saying what year it was.

Laura: 13:05

That'll be your homework tell us what year it is. But I wouldn't show the logo never because of the way it was feeling.

Esme: 13:11

I'm like I think it's an impala what I can tell me the front like no, yeah, it looked just like it.

Laura: 13:15

But I was like, would they really rent one for this movie? Oh yeah, okay. So they pulled up in an impala the valet's playing ring of fire. They're getting off, entering the building and it looks like they were already. Like that was a pivotal moment in time where, like they could either stay to catch the next um elevator or they could try to squeeze in and the elevator operator was like, no, come in, come in. And they're like no, we'll wait for the next one. But he was very insistent. But already that's the first red flag because the capacity it was over capacity and the elevator operator was like, completely disregarding it, they're all bunched up in there and she gets trapped with this little boy guest.

Esme: 13:50

That's like so obnoxious and a little jerk boy, you know the asshole kids.

Laura: 13:54

He was one of those. Yeah, like he was first taking out pennies from the fountain and that's also a reoccurring motif, the penny in in this movie and didn't someone tell him that it's bad luck to do that? Yeah, so I argue, maybe it was him that started it. But whatever they go up, and she's already starting to feel, I think, like the height, like the altitude that she's like increasing because she gets a little nervous and stuff, and then, once they're up there, unfortunately, like the worst case scenario happens where, like you're, you're there for your reservation and they're not, it's not booked, they're like it's overbooked there, they're not attending you yeah, and then, like it's the guy I guess he's like oh, can I speak to, like, because I guess he had a friend that worked there.

Esme: 14:32

Oh, he doesn't work there anymore, right, they're like, we fired him this morning, yeah, so basically he can't even. He's like oh, you know so, and then someone gonna be asked out and then someone important came in and they sat them down.

Laura: 14:43

So it looked like I wouldn't say racism because they were all the same race. Ageism, ageism, yeah, like I don't even know what that was, but he was a big old hater. It was like a viejo yeah, a viejo hostess, yeah, he was just jealous of those young people who had it like that yeah. But that's another sign too, like maybe they should have, but I get it. Like they were, he was trying to make them boast of it. Like they literally lingered, like they had like a few drinks.

Esme: 15:11

Or they tried getting drinks and I think um also like with like her, she didn't want to make him feel bad, so like she's like oh no, no, it's okay, look, let's go sit at the bar and let's go.

Laura: 15:19

You know, we can still be here like being everywhere that they were at and yeah, and like it looks like when they were outside in the view.

Esme: 15:34

That's when paul proposes to iris and that's what she tells him about, like her being pregnant, right?

Laura: 15:36

yeah, I think so but that little boy's there like throwing the penny and it gets stuck in like some vent. And you know how these movies are like one little thing connects to another and it just makes like a domino effect.

Laura: 15:48

And she had like kind of had an encounter with the singer. That was part of that scream and shout performance, and she had a little boy, like her little son was there. So that's important because right when, like, she starts having a premonition and all that, like she remembers him because they both died together. It was at that point, when they're outdoors, that she started with her premonition. She was there outside when they decided to go inside to dance and as they're dancing, that's when that song is going on, shout by the izzy brothers, and everyone's just probably drunk or like on good vibes, so they're like stomping, like really like getting into the song. Hey, hey, yeah. And the performers were also telling them like, oh, like get a little quiet now or something. Yeah, but then he's okay, like shout now. Like he was like on, the singer and the girl were like hyping up the crowd, so then they would start again like making a lot of impact on the glass floor. That's, that's what I was gonna say that.

Esme: 16:47

What a coincidence and terrible thing that, like they had a see-through glass floor, basically one of those things that I think people would be scared. I know I would be scared to even walk on those things because I know some places they have that they have glass floors that you could walk and you could see under. You're like miles and miles away from the floor. It was that.

Laura: 17:08

Has anyone been to the LA slide? There's like a slide, one of the highest towers in los angeles. I don't know if it's still open, but my aunt slid down like in a little potato sack. But it's clear. Like you, know oh my god, yeah, I wouldn't do that. I would. You just said that you're scared. No, the stepping.

Esme: 17:26

If I think a slide, I would oh my god, worse.

Laura: 17:29

Your whole body weight's. Like You're going fast, you might make it, you might. So, yeah, like there's all these things that are happening, though like to indicate that the floor is breaking Like the chandelier thing, like falls first to cause the initial crack. But then like there's like a little fire that creates because this guy was like cooking, yeah, like a flambé thing like and that little boy who threw that penny somehow like stopped the ventilation or something and like the gas valve.

Laura: 17:55

You know how I'm telling you. You know how these movies are. So then this fire just gets out of hand. So not only is the floor breaking, and since they're on it, paul's like one of the main ones that like just falls to his death because he's trying to hold on.

Esme: 18:07

She's trying to grab him, but he's grabbing onto like a shard of glass what is it about shards of glass and people's hands? I always see that and that's like the part that always gets to me, because people are like hanging onto glass, like stabbing their hand, trying to hold on. Oh my god, that's like the worst thing, I think. What other movies I know? We've said this in other movies and it's always that part, I think terr terrified for sure.

Laura: 18:29

Yeah, paul's death is like really gruesome. He slides off of his hold of the glass and he just hits his head first like boom on like one of these big metal rods, but everyone around him is either falling or they're also letting go. So it was just falling from like really yeah, I remember they're like drowned at the sky view, like the newest highest tallest building. So iris is on the side, like she was able to move, so she didn't fall through the glass, but now, like we mentioned, there's a fire breaking out.

Esme: 18:57

So it's just it's chaotic and everybody inside that didn't fall out is like running and trying to like stuff themselves in the elevator.

Laura: 19:04

Oh yeah, including that viejo, which he had a good death coming to him because he pushed her out the way like she. She was gonna get in the elevator first and he threw her out the way like to save himself. But something happened with the elevator and, as they say, like don't ride elevators when there's like a fire, so it just like crushed or something like the, I think like the tubes or whatever like just they, yeah, I don't know, they just let go or something.

Laura: 19:30

And he was crushed, like he was like midway in the elevator and halfway out, so he was like it was bad but he deserved it and then the stupid little boy like takes the stairs so he survived, he like lives temporarily.

Laura: 19:44

So now the chaos continues because everyone is dying and if it's not because they fell, it's because they're burning up and the sky view, since it's in the circular shape, it starts tilting and like breaking in half. I guess because of like, just all of the damage that's being done to it, like unbalances itself. So that's where iris also is trying to like find her balance. Well, yeah, like her survival skills kick in and she's trying to see, like where should I run to? And yeah, like you just have to watch it. There's a part where people are sliding like not voluntarily, like just gravity doing its thing. They're sliding down to like what was once the wall of the sky view, which is like a clear window, but now, since it's tilted and bent and hanging off, like there's, no, there's getting caught by that window.

Laura: 20:36

but it's like what happens when all that weight hits glass is going to break. And there was this one scene where, like the freaking pet, like a penny falls on the piano, and that was, that's what causes it to just like rock.

Esme: 20:47

And isn't it that same stupid penny?

Laura: 20:48

that's what causes it to just like rock, and isn't it that same stupid penny that's traveling? That's what I'm saying. It's like a reoccurring thing, that penny. So, aside from paul's like really messed up death where he hits his head, I think that was another memorable death the piano smashing that woman that ends up like getting I don't know. She died of being crushed or because she fell off, because it just broke the glass and she flew out. Or iris's death, which was um pretty scary because she was like one of the last survivors and she ended up getting that little boy that we mentioned earlier, like it was one of the performers, um son little son and he wasn't even supposed to be there.

Esme: 21:21

We find that, yeah, they couldn't find a babysitter.

Laura: 21:23

Like the girl, the singer couldn't find a babysitter he was like in a little metal box, like I guess, where you put like the plates yeah because the mom had like shoves him in there and then she burned up like right when she like she tried to save him and then she burned up because that fire had broke out. But she caught him she saw him crying, I think. So she picks him up and like they're like the last survivors, the last, and they're like on, like this peak of what's left of the sky view, like everything basically crumbled and fell right.

Esme: 21:51

Yeah.

Laura: 21:52

But I think like that too, like it ends up cracking and just they fall, like they end up falling yeah.

Esme: 21:58

And that wedding ring. Yeah, the wedding ring, oh, my God, you can say it if you want. So like there's like a nail that her hand gets caught on but it gets cut on her ring, like literally like they would have already both fell down. But because her finger got caught with that nail and it got cut on the ring finger on the actual ring, all their weight was being picked up by that ring. So imagine her finger holding like their entire body weight, you know trying to visualize.

Laura: 22:29

how did her visually? How did I think it?

Esme: 22:31

was like pulling and it like peeled off her finger. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Laura: 22:34

So, yeah, I guess it was like a really perfect fit or something.

Laura: 22:37

It was like really tight on her, but the way they end up dying is that her own like skin, like because it's so much weight, you know, it ends up sliding off the nail to the point that it rips off her skin, like the outer layer of her skin just stays with the ring and with the nail and like her bone slips out or something. So that's how the little boy and her die, because, yeah, with her other hand she's holding him and there's like picos and stuff on the floor that are from the debris and all that and she just falls. It hits her, like like she's opening her mouth, screaming, and it seems like it just stabbed her right in the throat and the little boy you know, self-explanatory he, yeah, he fell to the death and then that somehow is like the reoccurring dream that this random girl has. That's where, when I was in the movie, I was like who's this? Like? This is like weird, like it took a weird turn, because, because, usually it's the person that wakes up.

Esme: 23:31

Yeah, and this was a different person that's having.

Laura: 23:33

I was waiting for iris to be seen again and her to realize like, oh my god, like everybody, like you know, just get out of here. Like that's usually what happens in every final destination movie. But and it still does happen, but it just happens later like they show us later. But that usually not how it happens. It happens like back to back.

Esme: 23:50

So yeah, in this case I was a little bit like huh, so I like the twist because you know it changed what we were expecting, because we were expecting how all the other ones do. All of a sudden, this girl wakes up. And what's her name? Stephanie. So her name's stephanie lewis. It didn't see that, didn't she have like a spanish name? In another thing she did, huh in a movie.

Laura: 24:08

Yeah, I don't think her name was stephanie, was it? That's what it says right there. Yeah, for sure it wasn't caitlin. Okay, maybe it was stephanie, I just don't remember, but she's the main person in this movie, so we should remember.

Esme: 24:18

I know it just doesn't sound like it doesn't ring a bell, but it was because it's not caitlin, and I don't know why her name is louis, because supposedly her name was reyes, because look, even her brother it says charlie reyes, unless she has like a long name. Yeah, I remember when she was in class and they said reyes, and I told somebody I'm like, oh yeah, but she's not hispanic, she's supposed to be filipino, remember yeah, anyways so, anyways, this girl, stephanie, who knows her last name, so she's the one that wakes up from the premonition and she's like what the hell?

Esme: 24:47

and who is that right? And I don't remember shit. Well, she's not like what?

Laura: 24:52

the hell. She's more like, oh like. She wakes up from this nightmare and her roommate is like you gotta get it together because you're not letting me sleep.

Laura: 24:58

So that shows us that it's like a normal thing so she decides to go back home and kind of like reconnect with her grandma because she must have seen a picture or known the story or something for her to feel like. I think I know this person in my dream, but it looks like the family, when they start to catch on, that she wants to like reconnect with her grandma or find out more. It looks like it's like a big no-no, like they don't even tolerate it and it shows us that they don't have a relationship with her and it's only because she experienced this traumatic thing. That is the opening scene of the movie, but they did show her a picture and she it only confirmed.

Laura: 25:34

It's only because I think that grandma has such a traumatic experience and like that whole thing that we just described, like she obviously had to have lived. So she obviously saved everyone there because she had, you know, her kids and they had their other kids. So we don't really know what happened after that, like when she had that premonition, but we know that they lived. It just kind of shows us that they probably don't believe her. They don't like accept that she dealt with real trauma and that she's on to something with death and yeah, we start seeing later, like that they call her a very disturbed woman that she started sending pictures of like dead bodies and articles of like tragedies. But then we start realizing, oh, she's just trying to get everyone on board with like death exists, he's come for people or whatever.

Esme: 26:17

But no one, she's crazy yeah, like no one probably.

Laura: 26:20

And yeah, like the normal person doesn't want to see like things about death or like tragedy, but she's just doing it because she loves them and she wants to make sure they're. Yeah, they're like updated, but don't they find out? Well, eventually we find out that she's like pretty much hides herself well, I think that's part of why they think she's like a nut job, because they're like dude, she's like abandoned over there and her house is. We see, it's all like. It's like a freaking fortress.

Esme: 26:45

It's a fortress and she's like super careful she doesn't go outside, outside yeah.

Laura: 26:49

It kind of shows Stephanie too, like okay, the more that you try to keep me away from my grandma, it's not helping, because it looks like there's a lot of questions that only she can answer, because you guys don't have a relationship with her so she's determined to go find her and she does, because she goes back home and then, yeah, to her dad, her brother, and she looks like she's been very alienated from her family because she went to college and, like, started her own life.

Esme: 27:14

Yeah, it seems like people were resenting her for that huh some of her family members or she probably just was like the average college person that thinks about only them, like no, that's true, but I'm saying like it seemed like they, the majority of them, were like resenting her, like like acting like that's like.

Laura: 27:28

Oh, you just left the like all like dramatic, you know oh yeah, I don't think they resented her for going to college. My point of view is that she probably really did just get away from them and it's like, oh, all of a sudden now, because you're having nightmares and you need something, um, from like family, you're all up in the business trying to get answers.

Laura: 27:46

Yeah, because it was like a night and day that she it looked like she never really had problems or nightmares or dreams, but out of out of nowhere, like for three months straight, she's saying that she's having these nightmares, so what ends up happening is that she gets a tip from, like her uncle's wife and she's able to go to that grandma's house and yeah, it's like a fortress, like we mentioned with a camera that you can't even like access the property unless you like video chat with her and stuff, and she forces her to like not take anything down with her and she keys her phone.

Laura: 28:19

Everything has to stay in like a little lock box or something, and then the, the, the granddaughter is like I'm not dangerous. She's like it's not you I'm afraid of once. Once they're in that house, you see like it's very minimalistic and it's probably because there's so many houses, it's not that minimalistic, though Really, I was surprised that she had a bunch of stuff.

Esme: 28:38

She just has it in a very specific placement, like organized in a harmless way. Yeah, like to the point that she won't you know, hurt herself with it. She knows where everything is because remember, because she had weird things in there too I guess.

Laura: 28:50

So, moving forward, the whole like skyview incident gets brought up and the grandma's like, like you would think that there's like a resolution or like oh, this is why you're having these dreams. But the grandma's, like hell do I know, maybe it's a sign like. She just kind of like brushes it off, like I don't know, but I'm glad you're here, like let me fill you in. But we don't really real like know why it is that she was chosen out of everyone, or like why she is the one that's so sensitive to like what's happening. Yeah, we never got that answered. But the grandma starts overwhelming her with, like the discussion of death and like how it's coming for them and how she has been able to like fight it off for all these years. But she's basically saying like I'm like the target and he's he's always trying to get me so like if I let my guard down, and she starts like talking to him in real time. And then stephanie's like who are you talking to?

Laura: 29:39

because like, yeah, like, like remember like there was like a little um plant stingling in their house with like a base, yeah like wind moved it and like there was like this, like gust of of sun, a wind, and then like sunshine that hit it. I don't know if it was in the fall, but she was just like yeah, I think like I'm ready.

Esme: 29:54

Like a little ray of sun that came in hit glass, so then the glass was gonna catch something on fire or something. And then she's like I see what you're doing and she like moved it or something.

Laura: 30:03

Yeah, like it was that that whole vibe was basically their whole encounter. So stephanie starts realizing oh, this is why everyone thinks you're crazy, this is why I shouldn't talk to you. But the grandma's like, look, like just believe me, like I'm already gonna get taken out by cancer. So she's saying like my death is almost here, you're gonna have to stay here. And the girl's like oh no, like I'm not staying here with you, like I'm not living with you. So I thought it was really, is that?

Esme: 30:26

what you give her the scrapbook and then she reads it later, or yeah, I?

Laura: 30:30

thought it was really ironic and like fast that the grandma decided that she would sacrifice herself in that moment. Because she says that you know what seeing is believing. You don't believe me, but I'm like girl, you've been fighting off death all these years. You're gonna just like, oh, she didn't give up, but you're just gonna like decide that today's the day just because you saw your granddaughter. Maybe she thought like probably no one else is gonna visit me. This is my last chance to like get something across.

Laura: 30:54

That's probably what it was, because everyone was down to never remember she followed her because was that she realized that she wasn't getting nowhere with her and she realized, oh, you're leaving because you don't believe me. So then she paused because she knew the moment I step out of this door, like I guess it. Guess it's unsafe, but that's what I'm saying. It's ironic and fast that she made that decision to be like F it, I'm going to go out today. So she went outside and told Stephanie, like stand back here, stand back. Seeing is believing. And then, something that we missed Stephanie first first walked into the property when she closed the door behind her Like this, the gas, the door behind her, like this, I guess, no, this like fire extinguisher fell that's what I meant to say.

Laura: 31:29

I don't know why I said the gas they're so creative like I cannot tell you word for word how one thing caused the other to happen, but that fire extinguisher, the moment it fell I knew like this has to do with something, and the woman dies, iris campbell dies and the daughter, the granddaughter, is like traumatized, full of blood, and it has to do with like something that flew from like her roof down to her face. But, like we're mentioning, we think that it has to do with the fact that no one wanted to talk to iris ever again, like no one thought that she was sane, so she probably thought this is my last chance to get it across to someone.

Laura: 32:05

So stephanie was like the one Disregard the fireworks outside. Yes, july 4th is near. It's canceled. It's canceled, but it's technically near.

Jorge: 32:18

The farce of July?

Laura: 32:18

Yeah, I was going to say that, but I'm like I don't know if we should stay neutral on the podcast.

Esme: 32:23

We shouldn't, we shouldn't. No, we can't stay neutral, even if that statement alone says a lot, and I think that's sufficient.

Laura: 32:30

Yeah, even if that, that statement alone, says a lot, and I think that's sufficient. Yeah, but no, it's true, like we, we have a very bad political climate. It's best to just face the reality and I guess, since we have a little mini platform, we might as well, I know, touch base on the poor political climate that we have very poor and, um, as you know, we've said it before we live in la, and over here is like all hell broke loose.

Esme: 32:49

So and we stand with everyone. With human beings.

Laura: 32:52

With human beings. Human rights and everyone that's being affected and we know we have listeners in Mexico and in a lot of other countries that we for sure stand with at all times.

Laura: 33:04

And the US is as we know it's built up off of immigrants, so it's kind of stupid, like everything that's happening, and then I saw a post today that showed the camps where immigrants are being detained in verse was next to the holocaust, the concentration camps in the holocaust, and the meme said like oh, everyone's saying that this is how it started. They're like, no, we are already a few stages into the holocaust. Like what, what happened in that point at that time in history? Like, no, we're not in the beginning. Like because everyone keeps saying that, oh, this house started. And they're challenging that I know we're already like already in it.

Esme: 33:38

Basically it's already happening like oh my god, that's bad so I mean the fact that they they're going into people's houses like with no warrant. That's already a thing.

Laura: 33:45

So just so our listeners know, do something if you can. I am organizing a peaceful protest tomorrow in LA, and this will be my second protest, so keep exercising your freedom of speech and assembly.

Esme: 33:57

That's all I got to say yes, I agree. All right, before we get too deep in that, let's get back to the movie.

Laura: 34:02

So I think it would be very complicated if you and I got into how each person died. Maybe we could mention the top, I would say the mri one yeah okay, which one do you think stood out from the many deaths that came after this?

Esme: 34:16

I think that one was the one that I was gonna say, because that one was crazy. I think that was the worst one. No, because wasn't there a part that we were getting tricked, and I think that that's the part that they have like in the like in the trailer, where they're like having a barbecue and you see like oh, a broken glass or whatever. So you think everything's about to happen, but then at the end it's like who's the?

Laura: 34:35

one that dies first, like in the barbecue.

Esme: 34:36

Dad uncle, yeah there was like so many little components, like you know. There was like, uh, the mowing lawn, and then like the, again a shard of freaking glass, like the jumper thing the jumper, like it was like, yeah, the rake was under and the funny part is that they were like no, no, hold on the rake and they were, like you know, kind of being semi-careful or like checking, but like at the end of the day.

Laura: 34:58

Still, it happened okay. So let me just summarize it like a hundred miles an hour, because there's so much that goes into the preparation of the plot, like before the movie really starts.

Laura: 35:09

They're like doing a lot of setting us up like they worked overtime to set us up so we can understand, like what's about to unravel. So I'm gonna go through that like really fast, okay. So stephanie is left with this like burden now of like. Okay, this is what my grandma told me, this is what she gave me. This, this like handbook, of like a giant scrapbook of how to avoid death. There's like articles in there, there's like clippings of like just things that she's got there's like formulas of like this happened, this happened this does this.

Laura: 35:36

Yeah, like I guess, and like they even mentioned too, like there's like over a hundred ways to die in the house, like in your house, so nowhere safe. But she's at that point where it's like, do I believe it? Do I not? Like she was crazy? So we get introduced to her whole family and, in regards to the actors, like they were all new faces for me, would you agree? Yeah, yeah, but all her immediate family, like her first cousins, like her, like uncle, and then like it looks like her mom is out of the picture yeah, but she comes back in when that grandma died because that's her mom, but she always had that unanswered uh question.

Laura: 36:10

I think her whole family was deeply affected by the fact that her mom just like left yeah, like just left them. So we start seeing like that side, like that side plot unraveling like yeah, we start seeing the why the why? But also like how they react to it, like do they buy it?

Esme: 36:26

you know, and it has to do with the mom, obviously with iris yeah, so the yeah, we might as well say it now.

Laura: 36:33

Her mom, stephanie's mom, left them as children because she was raised the way that Stephanie had just experienced like five minutes with her, like just bombarding her with like ways you could die, so making you kind of paranoid, making you stressed, traumatized.

Laura: 36:47

So now that she had her kids which ends up being stephanie and her brother she felt like they're gonna die brother charlie charlie, okay, don't you think as the first mom, you're more than likely paranoid and always thinking about like, oh my, my baby, what's gonna happen? So imagine having that background too. Like, oh, I was raised to know how you could die. Like every everything that I see, every scenario has a way to like end badly. So that's her thing, saying that she didn't want to project that onto her kids and and make them a wreck the way that she was internally. So she felt that it would be best if she just like left so they had a normal life.

Laura: 37:23

So it looks like that was something that she didn't think about until they existed. Like until her kids were there she realized like like oh my God, I'm so worried about them, I'm paranoid. She said I wouldn't even want to let you guys go out or like do normal things because I'm so traumatized from my mom. So that's like a side plot. But then she starts kind of, I guess, being curious and piecing like a timeline that that grandma left behind. There's like red tape or something. Like she got like all these like clippings of newspapers and like notes and she made like a really long. It looks like a family tree, like a big, long timeline branch of, I guess, everyone that was at the sky view that day.

Laura: 37:59

So it's all the survivors and all of their trees yeah, not their kids, but like their descendants that created and extended. But by the time it's at iris, because, remember, she just died, because death got her. It shows that everyone before iris, in the way that they were supposed to die chronologically, they're out, they're gone, including their families. So it kind of just like it's like a freaky thing. I I would say, if I was, if you're stephanie, because you realize like wait, what, like, what do you mean? Every single person's dead, yeah, so that's why it's taken 60 years for death to reach.

Esme: 38:32

Iris To catch up.

Laura: 38:33

Because in the premonition her and that little boy were the last ones to die, right? So they're like the last in the timeline and that's where, like, the real plot starts. So it's kind of showing you that.

Esme: 38:45

That's the reason. Nothing happened to them before.

Laura: 38:47

Yeah the reason nothing happened to them before. Yeah, like stephanie, her brother iris's kids of their own, like they're still up because the mom or the grandma was still alive, like it's in chronological order, so now that she's gone, it's like I'm sure stephanie was thinking like, do I believe that? Like the next person's next?

Esme: 39:04

yeah, and you know there's a possibility that maybe that's why she was having the dream, because finally had reached that it's their turn. So, like, since she's one of the people that have to go, but like the other family didn't right, they didn't have those dreams, but they still died. Yeah, because they were like, um, the mom's brother, the uncle and and their kids were next and I think only one remember, like that funny one, like that, the oldest cousin, which I called it.

Esme: 39:25

I knew it. I'm like we thought he was gonna die in the tattoo shop that he works on all the crazy things that was gonna happen. He was like hanging and his piercings and all that crap was like he was about to die. Like, basically, what was his name, the oldest cousin? I forgot eric, yeah. So he was getting all confiado and like oh, nothing happened to me, but then come to find out that is because he's not actually the uncle's son and it was like they had to drop that bomb on the family, like all the family secrets being dragged out.

Laura: 39:50

That was only loophole and she was like, oh, you don't know what problems you were having at that time. Yeah, everyone starts going like a domino in chronological order of age right yeah, so yeah, she's already alluding to the first person that dies after the grandma. That kind of shows everyone like this may be true, but half of the family's like no, stop jinxing it and stop being negative, like they were telling stephanie. Like stop with your nonsense and your like ideas but, she's starting to believe it?

Esme: 40:17

yeah, because, because it goes like this, so it's like, um, the grandma, but then because the tío is older not like older than her mom him and his family tree have to go first before her mom and then her and her brother, like, basically she sees the cousin start believing it and they're like wait, they're like so which one of us is next? That's when they all go go see jb, because they found him through that scrapbook and he was a little boy that the grandma saved, so they went to go as his advice to see what happened or whatever. But basically, like he didn't really have like a solution because he knew, like him and the grandma they had stayed like being best friends forever, like ever since, so they kept in contact and he knew everything that she was keeping track of and everything you know. But he wasn't shying away from death because I guess like it was in his turn anyways. So he was just like, oh, when it comes, it comes.

Laura: 41:30

That's when he gave his heart belt last but I think it's because he knew of someone that skipped it. So that's why they were inclined to go visit that him, because he knew someone that skipped the chain and he basically shared like the secret you have to die as in your heart has to stop, and if you get resuscitated, well then that's different. You got lucked out, yeah, but that's kind of like risky and that's when he's saying like don't mess with death or don't try to plot, because things can get messed the second loophole is that you can kill someone and you now absorb the time that they have, but they're kind of like what's that gonna do?

Laura: 42:02

because you never know what time someone has, yeah right so they were passing by like the little newborn I know they're like no babies and they're like nah, we wouldn't do that.

Esme: 42:13

I know for little things so that kind of that.

Esme: 42:16

That little thing kind of reminded me of smile, because remember in smile, the movie, how they said that if you that you could like, oh, yeah, kill someone, I thought that instead of like killing yourself, and that that trauma would go down like the different direction if you killed someone in front of somebody else yeah, so you could save yourself. So it seems almost kind of like that, like okay, in order to save yourself, you have to sacrifice another person, you know like also um like the ring.

Laura: 42:43

You gotta show the video yeah, I would have no problem doing that. I'll pass it to somebody oh my god, and then tell them this is what you gotta do, to pass it, the balls on your court. Good luck, go. Go do it.

Esme: 42:55

Like I wouldn't leave them in the dark like, okay, in the ring, yes, I think I would try to do that and be like super transparent, like, look, I'm about to show you something that's gonna save me by showing it to you, but then it's gonna be on you and you're gonna do the same thing I'm doing and so on and so on, and pass it on and then, like I would be transparent, but like to do that, like to kill someone else to save me, I know no, yeah, I guess too much pause, you would, I guess.

Esme: 43:17

I guess like what does that?

Laura: 43:19

pause me, laura. Anyway I think I'm not okay during the movie, that's all I gotta say. So so, like we said, we're not gonna go down the line of every gruesome death, because they're all unique in their own way and fun to watch. But this one in particular has to do with eric, the one that's not biologically related to the family. So it's like why does he die? Well, because he was messing with death. That's what jb tried to warn. Yeah, he said, if you come messing with death it can get messy. So I guess you know death was offended and it's like you're going out too like you're going down foe just for being part of this.

Esme: 43:54

Yeah, against me yeah.

Laura: 43:55

So even though he's not biologically related to that brother, he still cares about him a lot and he knows that he has a peanut allergy and he's the next one to go. So they have this plot. Like you know what? We're in the hospital. This is like the best case scenario, because you're gonna get saved. You're in the hospital like everyone's gonna help you. He's like eat, eat something with peanuts. And it was funny because they were gonna get it like an unsalted thing from the vending machine. And he's like no, like get me something good like a reese's pieces, if I'm gonna go out, you know. And then or they take it out of the vending machine, but that vending machine has like a glitch and that already kind of shows you to like does that?

Laura: 44:29

have to do with something that happens later, because that's how these movies are. Yep, and side note, I asked my nurse friend if this could actually happen and he said yes. I don't know to that dramatic extent, but he says yes, like it's a very serious thing. You cannot be in the mri vicinity with magnets or metal or anything, no with metal because it acts like a magnet.

Laura: 44:48

So, oh, that's scary when they were in the mri room, like it was, they weren't even aware that they walked into that room. They were just more like okay, let's plan this here where there's no one. He got him a wheelchair. Which metal the guys full of piercings, metal like there's so many things that are wrong. And I think when they close the door at one point, like a clipboard falls and like turns on the mri machine and makes it to like the highest level possible, what are the odds.

Esme: 45:13

So what kind of like the tiny machine in the other final definition that it gives like the worst case scenario.

Laura: 45:17

Yeah, so it sucks because the guy, like their plan, starts working like he gets his epi pen and has it like at hand.

Laura: 45:23

He kind of wanted him to die, like you know, and like inject him right when he's like yeah but when you get like I, that's severe of an allergic reaction like you, you can't even function, you can't move, so like he starts being like unable to to walk or like like he's choking, basically. So that's why they had that wheelchair like to put him into. They could roll him out, like they thought it through, supposedly.

Esme: 45:42

But what ends up happening is that the other guy yeah, the other guy full of piercings and metal yeah, he's the one that starts getting all affected by the mri machine because of course he's full of metal, all these piercings all over his damn body, and little by little we start seeing like things fly to the mri machine that are metal also, like, I guess at some point the brother. He's like, okay, I need my pen, I need my pen. And the brother takes it like no, no, not yet, you have to die whatever. But he has it in his possession. So when he starts like being affected and being pulled into like by a like giant radiation, magnetic force that now is being created with the MRI machine and all the metal he's being pulled away so there's no way that he could attend to his brother. That is like literally dying of his peanut infection I mean peanut allergy and Like literally dying of his peanut infection, I mean peanut allergy and all these things from the outside rooms.

Laura: 46:32

Well, the wheelchairs were sent him to the hole of the.

Esme: 46:35

MRI machine so like your body's, like contortioning.

Jorge: 46:39

Like backwards.

Laura: 46:39

Like the way you sit down to use the toilet, like you bend one way, he's like bending the opposite way, like his whole body's like doing a freaking reversing yeah, look.

Esme: 46:48

So basically he's being folded into the little hole of the mri where your body goes, because the wheelchair like pushes him, because the wheelchair is being pushed, so his body is in between the wheelchair and the mri machine and everything is being sucked into it like a black hole, including his body with his arms and legs. You know he's like spread out, but like the spine is like bending backwards, if you know what I mean. Like he's like bending the opposite direction.

Laura: 47:12

I think that's the only way we could describe it right yeah, and you all will see that there's a lot of metal in that room, which is why this one is like the death that we decided to share out of all of them, like they're all bad, but this is the most memorable and the one that we wanted to dive into so that doesn't the vending machine, even like that's what I was saying like you kind of have a sense that the vending machine has something to do with it, but like right when they open the door like his, because his family, like they snuck off, so the rest of the family's like trying to locate them because they know like they're up to something, right when they find them and open the freaking door door, that vending machine swirly thing, like the thing that kind of pushes your item.

Esme: 47:49

It like flew, it was like a corkscrew.

Laura: 47:51

Yeah, like it flew towards the freaking MRI machine because now the door is open and then that brother with the peanut allergy that could have still been saved is over there like getting screwed in his head, like it's still spinning because of the gravity.

Esme: 48:06

Yeah, that's a little. So it was like they both died and Tragic spinning because of the gravity, yeah, so it was like they both died and tragic in a tragic way, but it'll be very fun to watch.

Laura: 48:14

Yeah, we promise you even though it's so graphic.

Laura: 48:17

And then, yeah, I don't know how else to put it they all go down like a domino. Yeah, they all go down like dominoes. It's crazy. So at this point, stephanie and the brother, like they're the remaining ones, so they only they know that. All right, this is a reality because everyone has been dying around us. So they're forced to believe Stephanie and by this point also, like they kind of already started believing her, like the other people who are now gone.

Laura: 48:41

At this point they were trying to be saved because they already started buying into her story. And now it's like her mom that she doesn't really have a close relationship with the brother and then herself. I like that the mom had like a good idea, and like a selfless one at that, because I feel like it could have worked. But they just, you know, death was like hunting them. But she said, like you know what, if my mom, which is iris, the grandma, was able to fight off death for all these years in that cabin, like it must, she must be onto something like it must be really fortified. Yeah, so she said, I'm gonna go there and until I die, you guys continue living like a good life, you know like forget everything.

Laura: 49:16

I thought that was like a really cool plan and, considering that the mom was absent from their lives, I felt like you know right, like as well she could do.

Laura: 49:23

She's already been gone, so now she could actually be of help. Uh, because I remember the this the brother, the younger brother that was like a teenager, was like, oh, we have to be there forever, and she's like I do not, you guys, yeah. But on their way there, that property ended up becoming like a battle zone for them, like there was like the electricity wires were out, like there was like a flood, like a little river, like a pool, that was like gathering with water, so like someone could drown and it was a bunch of.

Esme: 49:50

There was a storm.

Laura: 49:50

I think that didn't help. So the mom, like before she, she was right there about to enter that cabin but she didn't make it and it was a funny way that she went because she was in mid sentence. Like I will be like very confident, like I'll keep like until I'm gone, or I don't know what she was saying, but something very confident and boom, she dies.

Esme: 50:10

I'm like, oh, I know and then yeah oh great, now they do have to stay in there forever.

Laura: 50:16

Yeah so now it would be the girl and then the little brother. So they knew the order they knew. On side note, the penny does have another feature, like there's like a little lady in the hospital that we're like going like a like a few scenes back. She's like when they were asking for something for the vending machine, like a money for the vending machine. She's like you know a penny or something. And then when they already died and now that and they're leaving the hospital to go to that cabin, she like sees a penny and picks it up.

Esme: 50:42

Yeah, I'm like, oh, this penny, the stupid penny, penny, I think that's real. And then they say and they say, see a penny, pick it up and you have good luck.

Laura: 50:54

So I don't know, no, well, the lady had a good luck, not them. Yeah, at this point there was like some form of explosion that caused stephanie and her vehicle to like get into that pool of water that I'm saying. So she was like about to drown because her sepa, of course, is not working. So she, yeah, she can't undo it, so predictable. And then the brother's like, oh, my god, let me go save my sister, because he knows like I have to help her, so I can help myself. And then, yeah, so it ends up being like by some miracle that she passes out. She's like she basically starts drowning, right, yeah, but I'm saying like she actually like dies, like past drowns, you could say like passes out. That's what I'm trying to say. Like what they try to achieve intentionally with the other two brothers actually happened to them. Her heart stopped, seemingly, and then the brother resuscitated her, like did that cpr thing where, like, the water pops out of her mouth or whatever that scene?

Laura: 51:46

so they're like, oh, like you saved me, and like we basically cut the chain, like we're like the last, they were so happy and they were like like they were finally, like, I think, calm, because for days they were just with that concern and like those sleepless nights, like they were just on high stress, like once they knew like it was real. I don't think they got a break, so I think they had like some brush of relief, but I think death was clever to wait so long to let them believe that they had won. Yeah, because a plot twist happens at the end Right and all the motifs from the movie all make an appearance.

Laura: 52:22

A red Impala, like passes by a train track. A freaking penny falls out of a wallet, starts going down these steps. There's girls wearing the same dress that Iris wore at the Skyview. Like all these things. A freaking penny falls out of a wallet, starts going down these steps. Um, this girl's wearing the same dress that iris wore at the sky view. Like all these things. The ring of fire song starts playing. All these weird things start happening if you remember what the doctor said.

Esme: 52:39

Yeah so who was it that made the comment like, oh yeah, I saved her, like she was dead. And was it the brother? Yeah, so the brother's going to prom and his date her dad's a doctor, so when they're gonna go, I mean obviously town, and everybody heard their story of how you know everything that happened, so somehow, I guess like yeah, their accident. So then the dad went oh, I've heard so much about you, stephanie, blah, blah, blah. But then, uh, she goes.

Esme: 53:05

Oh, yeah, my brother like you know, he saved my life. And then the doctor well, him being a doctor, he does give that comment like well, yeah, but he kind of saying like ah, okay, like, if you want to say it that way, and they're kind of like wait, what you know? He's like well, you know, like there's no coming back from drowning, right, basically.

Esme: 53:27

So like that means that you didn't flatline, but you didn't flatline, yeah, so she was just unconscious. So basically, that tells us immediately that what they thought of her being resuscitated was not true, and that's what laura's talking about how like death was being sneaky and like smart by letting them think everything was okay, but in reality death was just biding time Because he was going for the kill Literally Boom.

Laura: 53:54

So there's like this chain track that we saw and we saw that like something happened with the railing, there was something that moved and I guess, right away when that comment hit, she went on like survival mode and started like I don't know, rethinking everything that she learned from that book. And she's looking around at the same time, like they heard, like the, the horn of the train, the train. And then like, because it's because they started looking around, like what, what is it?

Esme: 54:18

what's gonna, yeah, what possibly could it be?

Laura: 54:21

and I guess it like I don't know like it went out of the rail or something and it was going like straight towards like the residential houses. So they're just starting to book it because they know like why even focus on like oh, is my dad? Okay, did they get hit? They know it's for them, so they're just like we gotta run so they don't even care about like anybody else they book it.

Laura: 54:39

and, mind you, she already kind of started seeing too, like the signs of like the dream, like she was kind of like she had like a vibe, but like that confirmed it because, like I said, like there was a the dress and she had the premonition dream, so she knew, like that these things existed, like these little signs, right. So the train was carrying like long wood, like tree trunks. It looked like.

Esme: 54:58

Doesn't that remind you of one of the Final Destinations Like, was it?

Laura: 55:00

part two or three. I think it was part two. It was like a trailer, yeah, with a bunch of wood on it and it lost control. Yeah, let's control. It killed like everybody on the highway, so yeah. So it kind of like circled back because we've seen this before. Yeah, and those things that were in the train, they just fell out, like the impact, the fact that it was the high speed, yeah, like everything it was hitting stuff, so like it was a battle. I reached them like literally, the cement was crumbling like right at their heels like they were booking it, but it was those bottles that like just smushed them I.

Laura: 55:29

I know it was so terrible and that's how it ended. No one survived death. I kind of like that ending Me too, you know what?

Esme: 55:36

The movie's not realistic, but it's realistic as in like, okay, you can outrun everything, but you cannot outrun death. You can try, but good luck, yeah. Yeah, that was a good ending it was. I fell down, down, down, the flames got higher and it burns, burns, burns. The ring of fire, the ring of fire. Good job. In conclusion, death.

Laura: 56:09

Literally Friends, literally, friends, literally, I'd say my favorite part of the movie was the storyline. I think that I'm going to say it again it was a clever way of making the fifth. I don't know why I was going to say blood in, blood out, the fifth Bloodlines, final Destination movie, still interesting. Interesting because at this point, yeah, it could be like, oh, very predictable. We already knew what would happen that's how all of them have been.

Laura: 56:35

They're still good, yeah, but this one had like a way to keep you intrigued and to make you feel like you know what it was worth the wait, like we had something new yeah, it was a new twist to our screen.

Esme: 56:46

It was a new twist and I think I love the fact that they took it all the way back to the 60s. I like the fact that this was like oh, this is how long death had patience, but even though it took forever to get every last little loose end, it still did it. You know, definitely it was, and it makes you think like in real life, maybe all the accidental deaths are an accident. They were never meant to be. That's a good theory. That's scary, but I like to think it, I want, I like to think it now.

Laura: 57:14

Oh, and then I had a lot of negativity, a lot of a lot of backlash with the cgi. But I'm like what do you?

Esme: 57:20

well, they all have cgi, and this is this is one of the better cgi, because all the other ones look really crappy, right, because in actuality the cgi is not bad. I think it's exaggerated, like obviously, those deaths are like really exaggerated. So that's probably what people are saying.

Laura: 57:33

Oh the cgi but really the cgi is not bad. Cgi was terrible in part three I don't know.

Esme: 57:38

Yeah, I'm talking about this one wait, was it three or four?

Laura: 57:41

I forgot which one, but there was a movie, the one with the race cars. Yeah, they down, they like went downhill. I don't know why, I don't know who.

Esme: 57:47

Probably because it was such a part. Whatever they were like, people are just gonna watch this as like only the loyal people they're not gonna care, maybe, but no, this was good.

Laura: 57:56

I mean, I don't. The storylines are still good. I don't have an eye for that. Maybe I should, but dji like well, duh, unless you really wanted to die, kill real people, I know no, but this is.

Esme: 58:05

I mean. I don't think the cgi was bad. On this, I think like, of course, like every other Final Destination, the deaths were obviously exaggerated, but I don't think it was as bad as the other ones. I think it was actually pretty good. What do you?

Laura: 58:15

think I didn't mind it. So I was surprised to see all the commentary about it. But you know, everyone always has like something to say and a higher standard for something.

Esme: 58:23

But I mean, people that watch final destination, they already know how crappy the cgi is. Like this was better quality, uh cgi, because there's more things now they could do.

Laura: 58:32

I would recommend that everyone go on tiktok or youtube shorts, whatever you have and search up the final destination bloodlines behind the scenes, because I've come across them and they're really cool and entertaining to watch because it just shows you the other side of like how much work is put into these scenes. So CGI, if anything just like, helps elevate it. But a lot of the special effects and stuff like they still did it, like the MRI machine in particular, that was not CGI. So it's cool. What do you mean?

Esme: 59:02

Like Did they really activate the magnetism on it?

Laura: 59:05

Like they had someone's body bent how it's supposed to be normal, like in the hole, and then they're controlling like the top half of the body, like the arms and the neck, so it looks like you're getting in, but they're actually sitting like their legs are in the machine and then there's another person under with their leg down. But backwards, like on their tummy. So then they're controlling the bottom legs to make it look like it's folded.

Esme: 59:29

Yeah, it's getting sucked in. Oh my god, that's cool. So that is the work.

Laura: 59:33

That's not CGI.

Esme: 59:34

Yeah, that's creative, because then the CGI is minimal. They don't have to create a whole fake body. Yeah, and even the, or a model, or something we didn't mention the trash Compactor.

Laura: 59:43

We didn't touch base on the Trash truck. Tr garbage, garbage truck, that. But that was also a cool thing to see a behind the scenes on, because they made something that allows a person to get stuck there, but it doesn't squish you like, it makes the illusion of so I recommend how scary it is if that girl really had to film it in there being semi-squished yeah, but it was.

Laura: 1:00:04

It was like once you see how it works, you feel like confident. Okay, I could, I would do it because you know it's like all fake. Yeah, but yeah, I recommend, if anyone has time, look at it because I like, I like seeing that yeah so that's interesting for sure what would you rate this movie?

Esme: 1:00:18

I rate it like let me see, I actually I mean, I hate to say this uh, my expectations were not that high just because I thought, okay, this is gonna be a fun movie, but I already know these final destination movies are like basically all the same. So, honestly, I was pleasantly surprised that they upped their game and the whole twist on it and, like that, they changed. You know, they made it more, um, different idea and stuff. So I'm gonna say I give it a eight, a strong eight, okay, and that's still good in my rating. Eight is still super good. So and what about you? What do you rate it? I rate it.

Laura: 1:00:51

I want to say an eight with you. Yeah, eight. But the scare factor, which we always mention in every podcast, I would say, would be like, like, is it crazy to say like two or three? Yes, that's really.

Esme: 1:01:04

Because it's not scary, it's like Thriller. Thriller, not scary, it's like thriller. I mean, I felt like scared for all those people falling up, like if anything.

Laura: 1:01:11

My whole time, my whole, my whole like body language in the movie was that I'm like with my teeth very like clenched, but I have a smile and I'm like tense from my shoulders. Yeah, chills and thrills like what's gonna happen, how they're gonna die or how how far are they gonna take it, but I'm not scared like right. Oh, my God, I can't sleep.

Esme: 1:01:31

Because this is more like a thrill movie. I want to say thriller movie, because it's not a category.

Laura: 1:01:36

So you know what? Maybe I'm too low, but I say 2.5 scare factor because it's not scary. I don't even know what. I would say is scary, it's not scary, it's not, no, I just think it's like a thriller, like it thrills you. Yeah, all right. So thank you for listening to our bloodlines podcast. We really recommend this movie and hope you've already watched it because you should, because it's been out since last month.

Esme: 1:01:59

We just hadn't gotten around our podcast because we've had so many ups and downs and all this chaotic mess. But all right, everybody. So stay tuned for a scary story. Okay, everyone. So now we are going to come to our true horror story.

Laura: 1:02:28

So today we have three special guests. This is a never before seen in our podcast. We usually have one person, but we have a trio of siblings, so it's Adriana, jorge and Claudia. Today, they are actually my very direct relatives these are my tias and my dad and they will be taking a trip to the past, recalling an encounter that they had as children, which is wild, even scarier.

Esme: 1:02:53

Okay, perfect. So let's start off telling us when did this take place,

: 1:02:59

adriana?

Claudia: 1:03:00

When?

Adriana: 1:03:01

I was probably maybe like 12, 13. Because you, george, you were like 16?

: 1:03:07

16, 15. yeah... Quinceañero..

Jorge: 1:03:09

Yeah,

Adriana: 1:03:09

so we're, all four years apart, so George was maybe 16, I was 12, so Claudia was

Claudia: 1:03:17

just a baby...

Claudia: 1:03:17

, so we're in our it's supposed to be scary George,

Esme: 1:03:19

all right.

Esme: 1:03:19

So what year did this happen? Oh, I'm sorry.

Adriana: 1:03:32

So 80, no, no, no, 90, I'm going to say 90, 92, like early 90s.

Adriana: 1:03:37

Okay, early 90s,

Jorge: 1:03:38

our first trip to Mexico, right

Claudia: 1:03:39

, no, maybe yours, mine, maybe his

Adriana: 1:03:42

Maybe, maybe it was our first or second.

Adriana: 1:03:43

It was like very early on, okay, when we first started going.

Esme: 1:03:46

And who? Where was? Where was this exactly

: 1:03:48

Se llamaba Cinco de Mayo El Rancho yeah.

: 1:03:53

And that was the first time.

: 1:03:54

I milked a goat,

Esme: 1:03:55

a boy goat?

: 1:03:56

yeah a boy goat.

Laura: 1:03:57

Okay, is that serious?

Esme: 1:04:05

This is supposed to be scary. Thank you for joining us. Goodbye, of course. Oh my God,

Laura: 1:04:13

thats a horse

: 1:04:14

. at my God . Oh my God, go ahead, bang, or.

: 1:04:19

Donkeys

Claudia: 1:04:20

it was Cinco de.

Esme: 1:04:22

It ,was a donkey and it was in TJ

: 1:04:25

Okay, the ranch was called Cinco de Mayo.

Esme: 1:04:28

What state?

: 1:04:29

Monterrey

Adriana: 1:04:29

No?

Adriana: 1:04:30

It was in Tamaulipas where my dad's from, because Tamaulipas is where my dad was born and raised. In a small ranchito, like george said, named Cinco de Mayo, which is where we would stay half. Of the time in Tamaulipas, and then we would sometimes stay the other half in monterrey, nuevo leon okay the other city

Esme: 1:04:49

and who lived in cinco de mayo

: 1:04:52

my grandma, which was his mom, okay, and some uncles, cousins, cousins.

: 1:05:02

They all lived there,

Esme: 1:05:02

okay

: 1:05:02

.

Esme: 1:05:02

So how did this start?

Jorge: 1:05:03

I remember we were got there like in the afternoon,

Adriana: 1:05:04

yeah, yeah, right during the day, during the day

Esme: 1:05:05

this happened, the day you arrived. Yeah, right during the day, during the day.

Esme: 1:05:08

This happened the day you arrived

Jorge: 1:05:09

, the second night,

: 1:05:10

very cold, very cold

Adriana: 1:05:11

so, mind you this, this was around the time, and then, rancho, there was no electricity no running water like nothing. Everything was like so

Laura: 1:05:19

why, would you get

Adriana: 1:05:20

very like.

Adriana: 1:05:22

We used to go to the bathroom like in a hole in the ground,

Esme: 1:05:25

outhouse

Adriana: 1:05:26

, outhouse, yes. So when we arrived, like people say maybe it was the first or second time, you know a lot of it was just kind of like adjusting to that life or that experience. And you know, we kind of took it like, oh, we're camping, we're just, you know, here

Esme: 1:05:42

roughing it.

Adriana: 1:05:43

We're roughing it, but we were there sometimes for like a whole week, so it was more than just you know, a few days. It was traumatic haha, you know, and I think my grandma and my uncles and my cousins, you know we obviously enjoyed our time there. But so, yeah, it was like once

Esme: 1:06:01

A culture shock?

Adriana: 1:06:01

. We were trying to get there early usually, because once nightfall would hit it was pitch black. There was no lights.

Adriana: 1:06:10

The only thing you might see is like

Claudia: 1:06:12

the fire,

Adriana: 1:06:13

lenya, burning

Laura: 1:06:13

Like a lantern?

Adriana: 1:06:15

yeah, like a light. There was nothing.

Claudia: 1:06:17

The porch light, just a porch light. That's pretty creepy already as it is.

: 1:06:24

The stars.

Adriana: 1:06:25

And so my dad started telling us about his upbringing. Like you know, he started talking about like his stories and like the things he did when he was a kid and like even when he was a little boy, and like the scary things he actually saw. So one story was about him seeing these señoras.

Esme: 1:06:43

Okay

Adriana: 1:06:44

, because there was a cemetery like five, ten minutes from where my grandma lived, like it was like the rancho cemetery,

Esme: 1:06:50

Ten minutes walking,

Laura: 1:06:51

walking. Okay,

Jorge: 1:06:52

closer Probably

Adriana: 1:06:54

yeah, it was like, very like we don't even know.

: 1:06:56

It was like a backyard. It was like a backyard, it was right there.

Adriana: 1:06:58

It was like a block or two away

Esme: 1:06:59

Down the street, down the block, yeah. Yeah, because down the road like there's no actual.

Adriana: 1:07:05

Yeah, there's no actual like sidewalk or anything like that. Like no, it's just yes all dirt road and me, my brother, my, sister were like

Jorge: 1:07:12

I guess don't need us, they

Claudia: 1:07:13

us she's telling her side

Adriana: 1:07:16

, and then you're, because my dad starts telling us this and we're all freaking out. And then that's when you said, well, where is it? Where's the cemetery?

Claudia: 1:07:27

I remember we went already during the day.

: 1:07:30

We had gone there, we had gone during the day.

Esme: 1:07:31

Who took you guys guys?

Claudia: 1:07:32

I don't know what, my dad or something and then we went I don't know who we went to go visit my dad knew somebody that was buried there. So then, in anoche I remember Nada was there, like some of our cousins from the city came with us and show with us, I guess I don't know how many nights. And then I remember this one right here, george Grand plan, because I guess he was the oldest one.

Claudia: 1:07:56

One of the oldest ones.

Claudia: 1:07:57

Okay, he was like I don't know who, I don't know what we were doing. I guess we were like we were playing all day and it started getting dark. So we're like oh, like what do we do now? Like it's dark now. So then I think George was like well, let's go to the cemetery.

: 1:08:12

Well, yeah, well, the reason I said that was because remember that we heard noises when it was going down the night before and my abuelita was saying oh, son las brujas, son brujas.

Esme: 1:08:21

Oh what kind of noises.

Claudia: 1:08:31

Hee, you heard noises, yes, he looks around. I'm like you my grandma was telling me to go inside the house because the witches were going to come and get me. This was like the night before and I was outside by myself, I don't know why. And then she's like get in. What were you doing outside? I?

Jorge: 1:08:49

don't know, she goes no, come inside.

Claudia: 1:08:53

And I was like no, ahorita. And then my grandma, she was really strict, so she's like no, come inside. And then she got close to me. She goes do you see out there? And in my head, because I live in the city, when she pointed out to the mountains, I saw a ball of fire like this and I thought in my head I was like it's the freeway, it's the cars oh yeah, because I'm like, I'm used to the city yeah, and I just see like, and they kept on going back and forth the balls like the ball of fire.

Jorge: 1:09:22

It was my ball

Esme: 1:09:23

you know what I've heard before. Other people say that like that, when they see balls of fire in a distance, that they say, oh, those are witches I've heard that like soccer like just kicking it like world like world play soccer?

Laura: 1:09:37

no, like fireball. And I heard it later on and as maybe a little bit older. I did hear another story, that's on ball of Fires. That's crazy.

: 1:09:49

Great Balls of Fires. They were my balls actually...

Jorge: 1:09:52

They were on fire.

Claudia: 1:09:54

And then she pointed and she goes look

Laura: 1:09:55

, and you saw it with your naked eye.

Claudia: 1:09:56

Yeah, and at that time I thought it was just cars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Adriana: 1:09:59

and you saw, that before we went to the cemetery?

Claudia: 1:10:02

the night before Damn,

Adriana: 1:10:03

you saw four?

Claudia: 1:10:04

. No, the night before.

Laura: 1:10:06

Oh hey,

Esme: 1:10:06

I can only edit, I can't edit when you guys are overlapping

Jorge: 1:10:08

Four.

Jorge: 1:10:08

I thought it was three, it would be four.

Laura: 1:10:10

Okay, so that's scary. Did you tell your siblings?

Claudia: 1:10:12

No, no because I just went in, I was like, oh, she was telling me, like you know, like I was like okay, I just went in and she's like she's all right, hurry up, and I did get scared.

Claudia: 1:10:28

I don't know if I did tell. I think I told my dad and what he's saying and my dad goes you know like don't, but I think he did it because I was the youngest and he probably didn't want me to get scared like for real and be up all night like oh my god, the brujas are gonna come, so yeah so the brujas will say that he'll come pick up the kids and chop them up and eat them.

Laura: 1:10:48

Whoa,

Jorge: 1:10:48

whoa, dude Cowabunga!

Adriana: 1:10:51

That night my dad was telling us the story of these Eran hermanas, I think. Like eran hermanas, so they were sisters and even when he was there, like when he was little, he would see them and so he was like you know.

Laura: 1:11:04

So they're not real.

Laura: 1:11:04

They're like ghosts like demons that don't age.

Esme: 1:11:07

No, I mean, they could have just been old at that time they were ghosts. They could have just lived in a life where he was little, he told us they were ghosts.

Laura: 1:11:12

So they were not humans?

Adriana: 1:11:14

No, no no, no, Okay, okay okay.

Esme: 1:11:33

He goes.

Adriana: 1:11:34

They were like he told you, yeah and I was, and the thing is that it was like a good amount of us. It was like a good like what? Six?

Jorge: 1:11:40

nine cousins like a bunch.

Adriana: 1:11:41

But yeah, george was the oldest, everybody else was little

Esme: 1:11:44

so he was the 12 year old,

Adriana: 1:11:46

he was the leader,

Esme: 1:11:47

and then everybody else was younger

Adriana: 1:11:49

.

Adriana: 1:11:49

Yes, yeah my sister and, I think, nana right, you guys are about the same age.

Claudia: 1:11:53

But I remember george was like let's go to the cemetery and she goes. You're not gonna go, you won't go right and I was.

Claudia: 1:11:59

I'm looking at her like go.

Adriana: 1:12:02

Yeah. My dad's like bye and bye and my mom's like lalo, like why are you telling my dad's I'm like nothing's gonna happen to them, like they'll be fine, they'll just see the witches and they'll come back, right?

Esme: 1:12:09

They'll see the witches and come back.

Esme: 1:12:12

It's fine they're in a group. Nothing will happen to them, but you have to go before or by midnight.

Adriana: 1:12:23

Again, pitch black it must have been a full moon

Esme: 1:12:27

, so you guys were walking in the dark.

Laura: 1:12:28

Yeah, absolutely In the branches, With no light, no street, no street light, nothing.

Jorge: 1:12:33

And I was the leader, was it?

Esme: 1:12:35

a full moon, could you see anything? You could. That's what I'm saying.

Adriana: 1:12:38

It probably was a full moon or something. You know how, when you go camping, te ajustas.

Esme: 1:12:43

Yeah,

Adriana: 1:12:44

even when pustas.

Adriana: 1:12:44

Yeah, like even when you first get there you're like, oh shit, it's dark, but then you're, you're, yeah, your eyesight, your brain. Yeah, it doesn't just to like yeah, it's dark but you can still see, like the trees and like you know the contrast.

Jorge: 1:12:56

Yeah, and all I heard about that say if you go by before, like you said, 10, 11, 12 the witches are gonna come, they're gonna suck you up. I go, let's go I was like that's wrong, let's go. I was like okay, I go, let's go.

Adriana: 1:13:09

And I'm like okay, yeah, because I think we were still like let's go, my dad's just saying that to like scare us. He's just, you know, he's just being a dad, like he's not,

Esme: 1:13:18

yeah, a prank

Adriana: 1:13:19

.

Jorge: 1:13:19

We got there, we got there, we were there for like what?

Adriana: 1:13:22

Maybe five ten minutes?

Jorge: 1:13:23

Ten five ten minutes ten minutes in the cemetery, literally the cemetery

Esme: 1:13:26

and you guys were walking around exploring.

Jorge: 1:13:29

I was looking for the witches.

Adriana: 1:13:30

We were looking. We were ay van a estar like , you know, like waiting for us or something so this cemetery, is it like? It's like a park it's like a park in the middle of the rancho which is like wooden costumes

Esme: 1:13:41

so it's not like it's not a graveyard it's a cemetery, it's like a established...

Adriana: 1:13:44

, it's a different.

Esme: 1:13:46

Graveyards are more like they're no longer like burying people there and they're like really old, like they have the little thing, and they're just kind of like fenced off. A cemetery is when they're still like running, like they're still like with maintenance and whatever

Adriana: 1:13:59

I mean there was some old ass tombstones.

Laura: 1:14:08

Tombstone's place. They're going to bury people, so it was still functional, isn't it?

Adriana: 1:14:10

But yes, there was, because I think they were buried there, the witches.

Esme: 1:14:12

Oh the witches were buried there.

Laura: 1:14:13

My dad was telling this story from his childhood. And they had already been dead, okay, so it had been like 40, 50, 60 years since they had died, and I don't even know how long before that. Okay.

Jorge: 1:14:28

That story was okay. See, that's relevant. So while we were walking, almost half of our cousins ranked out. They walked back like, nah, we ain't going. So it was only being us three.

Claudia: 1:14:33

No, no, no, nara was there too, nara.

Jorge: 1:14:36

Nara was there.

Adriana: 1:14:43

Yeah, some of us. And they were like no, no, I'm Nadia, my dad's, just you know making up whatever. And then someone turned around.

Jorge: 1:14:50

I turned around.

Adriana: 1:14:51

Yeah, I turned around he turned around first, and what did you?

Jorge: 1:14:54

see I turned around first. It was pitch black. What I saw was two ladies. They were holding hands and they were floating in the air. That's what I saw.

Esme: 1:15:02

Where were they at?

Esme: 1:15:03

Like how far away from you

Jorge: 1:15:05

, Like from here to Arlington, no, From here to yeah, From here to Arlington, yeah, Okay, and they were

Adriana: 1:15:10

so like five, six houses away.

Claudia: 1:15:11

I felt like it was closer to me.

Jorge: 1:15:13

Like I remember seeing them and they started getting closer, Uh-huh but fast.

Claudia: 1:15:18

They were walking towards us.

Jorge: 1:15:19

Yes.

Adriana: 1:15:28

Like they were walking away from us, yes, but one of them turned around and looked at us and smiled, because then George was like, look, look, look.

Esme: 1:15:33

So they were close enough that you could see their face?

Adriana: 1:15:35

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jorge: 1:15:35

She smiled when she saw my pants half down, she smiled.

Mario: 1:15:38

She was laughing at you.

Adriana: 1:15:39

She went.

Adriana: 1:15:41

No. After George went, look, look, look, or, mira, mira, mira and my brother said look, we all turned around, obviously because we're walking away, going back home, we're like, okay, nothing to see here. And then that's what I saw. They obviously saw something different. What I saw was two women, all white, no feet. They were like floating, maybe like a good two, even three feet feet above the ground.

Adriana: 1:16:07

Floating away and, like you know, like kind of like in the movie. It's like see-through-y, Like transparent you know, Pero se veían como este

Esme: 1:16:14

Gowns?

Adriana: 1:16:15

Like gowns, you know like you know, in

Jorge: 1:16:18

the movie With Skeleton, he gets married remember?

Adriana: 1:16:20

oh uh-huh.

Laura: 1:16:23

he Corpse Bride?,

Jorge: 1:16:23

like that, like that

Esme: 1:16:24

, like that, like gown like white,

Adriana: 1:16:26

yeah, like that, but I remember the back of them and they were floating away, yeah, and then one of them turned around and smiled at us and that's when we all screamed and ran back to my grandma's house. That's how I remember, but I think okay and

Esme: 1:16:41

how do

Esme: 1:16:42

you guys remember it

Claudia: 1:16:43

me. I had a whole different memory of it. But now that she's saying it that way, then it's like you don't want to relive it. I don't remember even saying much. I was just saying like, okay, let me just go with my brother and my sister Just going.

Claudia: 1:16:59

And.

Claudia: 1:16:59

I remember being scared and I was just like, okay, I don't want to miss out or I don't want to be home just because I'm scared. And I don't remember going to the cemetery. I think that just erased completely, yeah, and I just remember george said look, and then nada was like and like she, like I remember her, like let's go, let's go, let's go, like. And I remember seeing them and I just remember her, george, grabbing me and taking me, like I remember just him holding my hand, he just took me. But I do remember like their shadow and I remember the reason why we did see them, that they passed through like somebody's porch, like a light. Yeah, it could be right, because it was pitch black. So I remember seeing that because you could only see porch lights and not everybody had a porch light either,

Laura: 1:17:41

and it was like fire, like a lantern right.

Claudia: 1:17:43

No, it was like a night, like

Adriana: 1:17:45

. I think. Some people maybe had generators. Like they had some sort of like night.

Adriana: 1:17:49

What is it an electrical you know source, but very like minimal.

Claudia: 1:17:54

Yeah, like it's like one house and then another five houses.

Jorge: 1:17:56

So we went back, we told my abuelita Espranza, that was her name, rest in peace. And she said oh, they're everywhere, they're going to be everywhere tonight, so just stay and put. I put her to sleep at that night, you don't know.

Laura: 1:18:05

Outside. No, you said you were not sleeping outside.

Jorge: 1:18:07

So I step on my mom. Where's my mom at? She remembers it was me and my mom in a tent In what they call their everywhere.

Esme: 1:18:13

In a tent.

Jorge: 1:18:14

In a tent. It was a little tent.

Esme: 1:18:15

Outside.

Jorge: 1:18:16

Yeah.

Jorge: 1:18:22

And they turn into things

Esme: 1:18:23

That's scary! Like shape-shifting?

Jorge: 1:18:24

,

Esme: 1:18:24

like it's like that you don't even know what you're looking at.

Jorge: 1:18:26

So I remember I was laying down and roaches landed in my face during the night. Boom, big-ass, roaches,

Esme: 1:18:32

what the hell.

Jorge: 1:18:33

So my mom gets up and she starts screaming. I mean, I'm talking about thousands of tadpoles started coming in the tent.

Laura: 1:18:39

aren't tadpoles in water?

Jorge: 1:18:40

Frogs.

Adriana: 1:18:41

no man....

Jorge: 1:18:42

No, they were frogs.

Adriana: 1:18:44

Yeah, yeah, no, it's okay.

Claudia: 1:18:45

There were frogs everywhere.

Jorge: 1:18:46

Everywhere

Claudia: 1:18:47

they were like they stepped on them.

Jorge: 1:18:48

And we were stepping on them trying to get away, and then we had to get to the witches.

Esme: 1:18:51

So you guys got up out the tent to leave.

Jorge: 1:18:54

To go to the In the house yeah, I remember, and in the trees you could see the witches, you could see the shadows and the noises they were making, all during the night. And then take a shit, my mom goes, you're gonna have to go through the, go straight, and there's a big hole and I'm like

Esme: 1:19:08

in the backyard?

Jorge: 1:19:08

, in the backyard. So I was walking there

Esme: 1:19:10

by yourself?

Jorge: 1:19:11

, by myself. Nah, I don't know. I saw. All I remember was seeing a pig's eye. I don't know where it's a pig's eye like

Esme: 1:19:17

where did you see it?

Jorge: 1:19:20

in the night I was walking.

Jorge: 1:19:21

I just saw a pig's eye like oh,

Esme: 1:19:22

in front of you

Jorge: 1:19:23

in front of me,

Esme: 1:19:23

with nothing else attached

Jorge: 1:19:25

no, I just saw a pig's eye, because it was pitch black,

Laura: 1:19:27

I think he meant like yeah, like you suddenly became in sight, Like it was a pig in front of him, but he barely saw it once he got close enough.

Jorge: 1:19:35

Yeah, so I went back home to find out that pig was a pig actually, and it was like it was just walking around that night.

Jorge: 1:19:44

but fuck,

Esme: 1:19:44

so it was a real pig?

Adriana: 1:19:45

Okay, it's not a real pig.

Adriana: 1:19:46

It's not a real pig.

Jorge: 1:19:47

Okay, it was dope, it was dope, it was a good experience.

Esme: 1:19:50

That's scary, Sooo. Okay, so the next day in the light did you guys talk to your,

Jorge: 1:19:55

it looks different.

Jorge: 1:19:56

It looks different in the morning, it looks different, of course.

Esme: 1:19:59

It looks different, but I'm saying now that the night before, and did you like think we?

Jorge: 1:20:05

were kids. You knew it happened, though like it wasn't like a dream, yeah, but we were kids.

Esme: 1:20:08

We were like hell yeah, and then did you tell your other cousins that missed out, that didn't go.

Jorge: 1:20:12

They already knew.

Jorge: 1:20:13

They already knew, they lived there so they were like yeah,

Esme: 1:20:15

but remember the ones that ranked out well I mean, that's why they seen them before and I think, and I think worse shit

Laura: 1:20:21

thats scary

Jorge: 1:20:24

yeah, it was

Laura: 1:20:24

because I feel like they knew that you were watching them like they kinda like taunted you guys, and now you want to find out. We're gonna be right here to show you guys,

Adriana: 1:20:31

you know, and it wasn't like, oh, just one of us, or you know, like saw it, like all at the same time,

Laura: 1:20:37

but that's weird like that you say, like they were transparent and they were floating.

Claudia: 1:20:41

I remember they were floating

Esme: 1:20:43

and you remember them, how they how they describe them too?

Jorge: 1:20:45

had no teeth, only gums.

Esme: 1:20:48

For ?

Jorge: 1:20:50

....

Adriana: 1:20:50

Oh, he's stupid, we have had other... When Claudia came, a lot of weird things started happening

Esme: 1:20:57

She brought something

Adriana: 1:20:58

. Some things Claudia remembered, but one of the things that me and George. I must have been about six or seven. George was around 10, 12. So this was like no mid 80s and we still lived in the house in Imperial? South of here, este...

Jorge: 1:21:16

South Central

Adriana: 1:21:17

and so my dad. He would always show up around like 12, 1 o'clock in the morning. He would always show up really, really late from work, so we me, George and my grandma.

Adriana: 1:21:25

We share a bedroom. And that bedroom faced the backyard, so the backyard was the backyard, but the backyard and the driveway were parallel to each other. But my dad, if he were to bring in his car, it was rare if he would bring it all the way to the back part of the driveway.

Jorge: 1:21:43

And it was a big backyard too. It was a huge backyard, that's it. I don't remember. Yeah, you could fit like fucking like 10 cars in. It was a big backyard too. It was a huge backyard. That's it, I don't remember. Yeah, it was a huge. You could fit, like fucking, like 10 cars in there.

Adriana: 1:21:52

Yeah, it was a huge backyard, but my dad's the driveway was to the side, it wasn't directly like in front of our bedroom window. So that's important, because our bedroom window is important. So, every night my dad would come home, me and george my grama was like knocked out, snoring me, and george were maybe, you know, fall asleep or something,

Jorge: 1:22:11

bunk beds,

Adriana: 1:22:11

you know

Jorge: 1:22:16

you're in the bottom and I'm on top

Adriana: 1:22:17

I was.

Adriana: 1:22:18

I was sleeping on the bottom, george on top. I was sometimes waiting for my dad because I knew he would. When he would come home, he'd come into our room and give us a kiss. Good night,

Jorge: 1:22:26

not me...

Adriana: 1:22:28

he would give us a kiss good night and that was like the timing right, like okay, around this time we were kids so we didn't have like watches or anything like that, we just knew it was around that time.

Adriana: 1:22:39

So one night I remember this big old bang, this big old like flash of light coming straight into our bedroom big ass lights, because the first thing I thought was like it must be my dad's car, like, for whatever reason, this big old like flash of light coming straight into our bedroom,

Jorge: 1:22:48

big ass lights.

Laura: 1:22:48

se me hizo raro, because the first thing I thought was like it must be my dad's car, like for whatever reason, he got off the driveway and flashed. The light is facing our bedroom window which was again that's that it would take a. He would have literally had to drive off the driveway and gone into, like the grass area, and it just didn't make sense. But as a kid, kid you're like, okay, that's the only thing that can make sense.

Jorge: 1:23:08

I saw bright lights too.

Adriana: 1:23:09

But the thing is that the light never turned off right. They stayed on, like just flashing into our bedroom and then I had.

Laura: 1:23:16

I'm feeling like

Adriana: 1:23:20

It was like a beam.

Jorge: 1:23:21

Yeah, like beams. Yeah, Straight to a room.

Adriana: 1:23:23

So I had my back to like the wall.

Adriana: 1:23:26

Well, no, I was facing the wall so I couldn't see behind If my dad was coming in, I couldn't see him or anything like that. Again, I just assumed it was him. But I did feel somebody walk into the bedroom and then usually he would just like lean over, kiss me on the cheek and then leave. But this time he sat down like on my bed, like on the side of the bed, and he, he sat down like on my bed like on the side of the bed and he just sat there and I just remember thinking like okay are you gonna give me a kiss goodnight ?

Adriana: 1:23:52

like like well, that's weird. He's just sitting there, he didn't lean over, he didn't kiss me, and then, like a few seconds later, the lights went off and that was that. And I was like that's weird. Like five minutes later, my dad comes in and does everything he does so yo me quedé with the what the fuck was the?

Adriana: 1:24:15

first thing is person then, yeah, like what was that right? So I don't know if me and george ever really talked about it. I don't know we talked about it the next day. Do you remember we talked about it like how long before we both realized? Like wait, no, this actually like we both had the same experience

Jorge: 1:24:31

it wasn't the same night though

Adriana: 1:24:32

no, no, no. It must have been days, weeks, years later. But george tells me hey fool, do you remember that?

Adriana: 1:24:38

one night, yeah that the and I looked at him and I said, because you know, when you're little like memories are kind of weird

Esme: 1:24:45

yeah memories, but you don't really know what they are and you're like

Adriana: 1:24:47

, okay maybe me imagine cosas and you just move on with your life.

Claudia: 1:24:51

And because george didn't mention it, like that moment or the next day, you're like okay, I'm just tripping

Adriana: 1:24:55

yeah like you know.

Esme: 1:24:56

So what do you? What did you say? Like what?

Esme: 1:24:58

did you tell her

Jorge: 1:24:59

like what she said?

Jorge: 1:24:59

I remember the light

Claudia: 1:25:00

describe everything

Adriana: 1:25:01

george started telling me hey, remember that one night, because I think we were talking like this.

Adriana: 1:25:06

We were talking about like scary things or aliens or things like that and it was

Laura: 1:25:10

like it is giving alien abduction vibes

Adriana: 1:25:13

so when he started talking and describing it, I was like george.

Adriana: 1:25:16

I said wait, this whole time, I'm already thinking it was because, you know, we're half asleep, we're kind of in and out of like consciousness at that point. So it's like I thought I had fucking dreamt that. And he was like no, no, he's like it happened. And I said do you remember someone coming? He goes, yes, he goes. Did you see them?

Adriana: 1:25:31

Or did you also have your back?

Jorge: 1:25:33

No I heard him sitting on your bed, because you know how it's squeaky yeah.

Adriana: 1:25:37

Yeah, so he described everything I also experienced. So that's when we both realized like, ok, this happened.

Claudia: 1:25:42

From where do you think this thing went in? How did it go in?

Adriana: 1:25:46

Through the front door? Through the door door, like our bedroom door? I don't know how it got into the house.

Adriana: 1:25:52

But I think it was like very,

Esme: 1:25:53

because at first you thought it was your dad, so it looked like he just walked in

Adriana: 1:25:56

it sounded like the door opened.

Jorge: 1:25:57

Yeah.

Adriana: 1:25:58

You know, walked in, sat on the edge of my bed.

Laura: 1:26:02

The footsteps did you get like a glimpse? I mean, did you get like a little? were you able to hear the footsteps and it sounded like someone else?

Adriana: 1:26:09

It felt weird. Yes, it didn't sound like my dad. It sounded like a much bigger person Because, you know, my dad's not that tall but I'm little, so my dad's still big compared to me and then the weight of someone sitting on my bed felt like heavy.

Adriana: 1:26:23

A much bigger person, creature

Laura: 1:26:27

so you think like you kept your eyes closed because you didn't think much of it?

Adriana: 1:26:30

No, I didn't close my eyes.

Jorge: 1:26:31

It was my grandma's Sancho foo...

Adriana: 1:26:32

I was facing the wall.

Adriana: 1:26:33

I was facing the wall and my grandma snoring. Like she had like no awareness or didn't feel anything or didn't even think that it was Again, a lo mejor, ella también pensó que era lo mismo. My dad, you know,

Claudia: 1:26:47

Did you feel scared?

Adriana: 1:26:49

I did. I remember going like the more like that scenario unfolded, I was like this doesn't feel like my dad, Like I felt like this is something else.

Adriana: 1:26:58

Yeah, I think.

Adriana: 1:26:59

I was like confused, and then afterwards, when I realized like wait, my dad my dad. That wasn't my dad, because my dad came in five minutes later.

Adriana: 1:27:08

That's when I was like what the fuck was that?

Laura: 1:27:09

And you didn't feel like telling him?

Adriana: 1:27:10

No, because I think again, since I was so little, I was just like, oh, this must have been a dream.

Gilbert: 1:27:15

What if he was testing to see if the lights went in the room?

Adriana: 1:27:19

How bright can I be?

Laura: 1:27:21

Or have you told Grandpa this? We did tell Grandpa. We did tell grandpa and he made sure that it wasn't him.

Laura: 1:27:27

That's what I was going to say. It feels like alien abduction vibes.

Claudia: 1:27:34

I was in the corner like this.

Jorge: 1:27:39

I got abducted and came back with a small penis.

Adriana: 1:27:43

I think they came back to check on me.

Adriana: 1:27:45

They were like she's okay, what do you mean?

Laura: 1:27:49

What do you mean? You're saying you're an alien?

Adriana: 1:27:52

Yeah,

Claudia: 1:27:52

... oh my God. And then somebody was standing behind me!

Esme: 1:27:57

No, they're going to abduct you!

Laura: 1:28:04

Do you have a filter Like right here? Do you have a filter? No, here.

Laura: 1:28:09

Do you have a filter?

Claudia: 1:28:09

No, no,

Esme: 1:28:10

okay.

Claudia: 1:28:10

So Because I was like this is breaking news...!

Esme: 1:28:12

Breaking news listeners! One of our guests just saw something weird! Say it again, say it again.

Laura: 1:28:19

Oh my God,

Jorge: 1:28:20

Say it now she's the alien.

Claudia: 1:28:22

Well, my sister's saying that she's an alien. I was getting bored so I opened my phone and I opened my snap. I showed your camera and I showed my camera and I saw myself.

Esme: 1:28:38

So it's you,

Claudia: 1:28:40

but there was a female behind me...

Esme: 1:28:42

A female?

Adriana: 1:28:43

What did she look like?

Adriana: 1:28:44

Did you take a picture?

Esme: 1:28:46

Did it record what?

Laura: 1:28:49

did she look like? And you take a picture, did it record. What does she look like?

Esme: 1:28:51

and just so you know everyone, we're like outside campfire. Vibes for Laura's birthday.

Esme: 1:28:57

For Laura's birthday

Jorge: 1:29:00

what house was this?

Jorge: 1:29:01

what house was this?

Esme: 1:29:03

This house is haunted. What?

Claudia: 1:29:07

what I can't sleep on my cell.

Jorge: 1:29:10

Talk about the phone, the phone, the phone

Esme: 1:29:15

Those stories are for next time

Claudia: 1:29:16

but by the moment. So when I went like this because I was looking at myself, and then when I realized there was somebody behind me, when I looked back she had disappeared. Oh so it was like very quick, what did it look like? It looked like a female

Esme: 1:29:31

Young old?

Jorge: 1:29:31

Is there a toilet paper?

Claudia: 1:29:33

Yeah, there is

Jorge: 1:29:34

no, but Mario's been there for a while.

Esme: 1:29:36

Stop bullying him.

Adriana: 1:29:38

So she was like younger?

Claudia: 1:29:39

Yeah,

Adriana: 1:29:40

dark hair?

Claudia: 1:29:40

She had light skin,

Adriana: 1:29:41

light skin dark hair?.

Claudia: 1:29:42

I think so,

Jorge: 1:29:43

I'ma check up on him...

Adriana: 1:29:43

. Oh my,

Laura: 1:29:44

If you want you can sleep in my room

Claudia: 1:29:45

Oh, I'm sorry i interrupted here Okay, no, that's, that's too scary.

Esme: 1:29:50

Can you talk?

Laura: 1:29:51

I'm scared, that's scary.

Esme: 1:29:53

She's like ....

Esme: 1:29:59

Hello, co-host!

Laura: 1:30:01

that's so scary. I want I just think that first of all, first think that first of all, first. Back to the first story, the witches.

Laura: 1:30:10

I think that that's like a rare story I don't think a lot of people could say firsthand that they've seen like a lot of people like

Esme: 1:30:14

ghost witches

Laura: 1:30:15

ghost witches and you describe them like very I don't want to say fake, but like very

Claudia: 1:30:23

like what we see in the movies.

Esme: 1:30:24

Yeah, very whimsical

Laura: 1:30:25

Like see through with gowns and they're floating no feet

Esme: 1:30:28

In the cemetery

Laura: 1:30:30

.

Laura: 1:30:30

That's crazy, that it actually happened to you, the three of you.

Laura: 1:30:33

But I for sure know that whatever bad entity or devil you guys were with, like it knew that you guys were there for them, so se les aparecieron.

Laura: 1:30:41

Like they were very conscious of you

Esme: 1:30:43

You guys, oh you guys are

Claudia: 1:30:44

from LA

Esme: 1:30:44

you guys are from LA.? You guys came down the road to look at some witches in the cemetery?? Well, guess what? Here we are

Claudia: 1:30:53

and we yelled and we started running.

Laura: 1:30:55

And I wonder what would've happened if you guys would've like? Been more daredevils and been like we're staying here.

Esme: 1:31:00

Oh, no

Adriana: 1:31:01

Like ran towards them.

Adriana: 1:31:02

Yeah because they could have really scared us, Because I think they were just like we're scared.

Esme: 1:31:06

Yeah, they could have done that.

Claudia: 1:31:08

They smiled at you guys?

Adriana: 1:31:09

They smiled at me. Like my baby bruja!

Laura: 1:31:13

They're like my fellow alien.

Esme: 1:31:16

Now we see you, girl.

Laura: 1:31:17

Oh my God, what.

Esme: 1:31:20

Okay, so follow question number two

Laura: 1:31:22

Grandma help

Laura: 1:31:23

Claudia vio, un ghost ahorita

Claudia: 1:31:26

and she closed the door.

Esme: 1:31:27

She's like I'm not coming out. She locks it.

Jorge: 1:31:30

Don't let her in.

Claudia: 1:31:37

the ghost Mom.

Claudia: 1:31:38

There's a ghost down here!

Laura: 1:31:39

but she saw something Behind her. It's Mario... It's a ghost.. He's been trapped in the house? haha He's been .

Esme: 1:31:47

She already locked him in

Jorge: 1:31:48

Let me find out more.

Laura: 1:31:49

I'm gonna find out okay, now fast forwarding to the light story. It does sound like a traditional story of like a ufo falling bright ass lights on the ufo, like you guys especially

Esme: 1:32:01

you guys had a big backyard, maybe you had room to land there.

Jorge: 1:32:04

That's what I'm saying. That was a big backyard.

Laura: 1:32:05

Do you feel like you were paralyzed with the light at all like? Did you feel you's?

Laura: 1:32:06

what I'm saying. That was a big backyard. Do you feel like you were paralyzed with the light at all?

Esme: 1:32:10

Did you feel you lost time?

Adriana: 1:32:11

I do feel like there was a little bit of a time lapse At that moment. Yeah, like almost like time stopped, because that was the time that grandpa was supposed to show up, okay, so there was a gap, so there was like a pause in time, the matrix lapsed,

Laura: 1:32:27

oh my God,

Adriana: 1:32:28

and they showed up first to not interfere with what's supposed to happen. You know it's the whole like okay, this timeline is supposed to be,

Laura: 1:32:37

and you were in.

Laura: 1:32:37

Mexico again.

Adriana: 1:32:39

No, no, no, no, we were in the Imperial right here. When we used to live

Adriana: 1:32:42

In the other house

Laura: 1:32:43

So they be coming to the States...

Esme: 1:32:46

It ain't safe here

Adriana: 1:32:48

they come to First World countries....

Adriana: 1:32:49

That's so cute

Claudia: 1:32:51

this is the house that you had your first communion party and my birthday party together.

Laura: 1:32:56

Yes, so they wanted to get a taste of LA Mexican kids.

Adriana: 1:33:01

We still gonna follow you wherever you go,

Laura: 1:33:04

So you think, if the alien/ serial killer that broke in your house, whatever you want to call it they could have like taken you, you think they could have hurt you if they wanted to?

Jorge: 1:33:12

Yeah.

Adriana: 1:33:13

Yes, I mean now like looking back, like every time that we talk about it I don't I obviously, at that moment I felt like confused and a little bit like yeah, scared. But like right now, like if you ask me, like I don't think it was a bad entity,

Laura: 1:33:27

okay, what do you think it was?

Esme: 1:33:37

Her bloodline.

Laura: 1:33:38

And with that...

Esme: 1:33:40

now.

Jorge: 1:33:42

and that's why, she's a witch today...

Esme: 1:33:49

You missed it, Mario

Laura: 1:33:49

so you think your ancestors have like a fight vehicle?

Adriana: 1:33:53

So now that I have an understanding about what we say, aliens right when people talk about oh there's aliens, we do UFOs, blah, blah, blah.

Adriana: 1:34:00

Right Now, because of everything I've been reading and learning from other people, our indigenous people, our indigenous ancestors, have always talked about star people. They have, they have, they've always talked, and the original like so you know how creation, like Christianity, has their creation story of like Adam and Eve and all that right. So in many indigenous cultures the creation story is that someone came from the skies and it was a woman, and that's how creation started.

Jorge: 1:34:28

That's why ! So god's a woman. That's why we're fucked foo.

Laura: 1:34:31

So they're saying, especially during this time like in the last you know what, maybe 40, 50 years. A lot of people here are descendants of those star people.

Jorge: 1:34:42

And they're women.

Laura: 1:34:43

Like mestizos, but like of them.

Adriana: 1:34:45

Yes yes, I don't know if you're familiar with, like indigo children or like stars seeds?

Esme: 1:34:50

yeah, yeah, I don't know

Jorge: 1:34:54

children of the corn...

Adriana: 1:34:55

so star seeds are like people that have you know

Laura: 1:34:59

that reproduce a the star people?

Adriana: 1:35:02

no, that have like a connection to the original, like story of humanity.

Laura: 1:35:08

So not everyone, though, is part of it. If we all came from the same question

Adriana: 1:35:12

, there is some teaching that all of us came from,

Claudia: 1:35:15

so they don't come in packs?

Claudia: 1:35:17

like a

Adriana: 1:35:18

no

Claudia: 1:35:18

UFO?.

Laura: 1:35:18

Yeah, what was the bright light in the in the

Laura: 1:35:21

in the ancestor explanation? like.

Laura: 1:35:23

What do you think would have been the light like they had,

Jorge: 1:35:25

like a?

Adriana: 1:35:26

I mean maybe it was a light to like shine to help the person find us maybe something open, because we again george and I have had and claudia eventually but remember the, the ufo ship we saw in Indio, yeah, so again another situation where we saw like your stereotypical like ship with like lights around it. So I think that again our brain, our understanding of like UFOs and stuff like that is like very outdated, it's very like or it's very like government and all the government like

Adriana: 1:36:05

yeah, whatever images.

Adriana: 1:36:06

And images and we're gonna see that, like you say, like even the brujas, we saw what we have already probably someone else described

Esme: 1:36:13

yeah, something has been embedded, like we already have those ideas and like images because of things that we've seen in the past

Adriana: 1:36:19

. Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know.

Adriana: 1:36:21

I think that it's interesting

Laura: 1:36:23

but you as an adult, you think it was like not a threat

Adriana: 1:36:26

no, no, me personally.

Adriana: 1:36:27

I'm not afraid of UFOs or whatever. I'm not afraid of those.

Laura: 1:36:30

He'll be like damn it.

Adriana: 1:36:32

I think it's so cool People that can see go, because there's some people I've heard. There's a girl at my job, she's a librarian, she goes. I've seen people walking through here Adriana, she goes, and that shit scares me and I'm like damn that's so dope like she's, like I don't want that gift and I said well, I go too bad.

Adriana: 1:36:50

No, like you, could you. Could, you could say you don't want it and you won't see it anymore. I said but just know that that's that was given to you for a reason. But like for her, things happen like she sees women, she sees beings like books fall and they land perfectly like that doesn't happen to anyone. I know someone else that sees dead people and I don't think that's a coincidence.

Esme: 1:37:10

No..

Adriana: 1:37:12

because these things have been happening to us since we were kids.

Jorge: 1:37:14

I see them all the time, yeah.

Esme: 1:37:16

So I'm pretty sure that also like, and then these are attracted and they're like oh, they can see us, so they're here.

Adriana: 1:37:24

But then you have to be careful, because not every being or entity is different intention.

Esme: 1:37:27

We're going to go through, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay you're here, but then you have to be careful, because not every yeah, because there's different teams. I don't want to see different intentions different intentions we're gonna go through her snapchat, I know okay, follow up question for her now

Laura: 1:37:36

well, we kind of answered it was a woman.

Laura: 1:37:38

What a coincidence we're talking about, like women, creators but she was right, here she was standing right here

Adriana: 1:37:43

she was like finally they've accepted me.

Laura: 1:37:47

Well, the thing is,

Esme: 1:37:48

it's the bloodline

Laura: 1:37:49

scary, right it just what's scary that no one was behind you but, she didn't look scary herself

Claudia: 1:37:53

because I froze, because thinking like, like, let me

Esme: 1:37:58

process,

Claudia: 1:37:58

process the fact that there isn't nobody behind me, like, so why am I looking that in my phone?

Adriana: 1:38:03

That doesn't make sense.

Esme: 1:38:05

So again, listeners, we're reviewing the fact that she saw something as we were talking about this on her phone camera behind her.

Laura: 1:38:14

yeah, and it was not a filter. We confirmed not a filter

Claudia: 1:38:16

no, it wasn't on a filter, but yeah, that's why I was like it took me a while, like I froze, because I'm like no, there's nobody behind me, though

Laura: 1:38:24

oh my god,

Claudia: 1:38:24

and I interrupted

Jorge: 1:38:26

you can just send her to

Jorge: 1:38:27

my room next

Adriana: 1:38:29

yeah, and I think also just like culturally, like for like mexicanos and like people of similar cultures like we, we don't separate like the spiritual world from like the non-spiritual, or like the earthly realm, but for those of us that are, like, born and raised here, it's like oh my god like it's such a weird thing to see or to have these supernatural experiences, but for many of our grandma or the people that live in the rancho, it's like that's what happens.

Esme: 1:38:58

That's part of life.

Adriana: 1:38:59

Yeah, and you got to be respectful. That was also the thing of like, don't go over there, like, you know, creating or trying to mess with people or mess with the ghost or the brujos, and that was the other thing too. It's like, oh, if you mess with something like that, it's going to come back to you, that you're not just going to go and like, make you know,

Laura: 1:39:17

cause a ruckus.

Adriana: 1:39:18

Yeah, like, make light of it.

Esme: 1:39:20

Right

Adriana: 1:39:22

I think here it's like, oh, like it's exciting and it's like scary, but there's real, I think, consequences of like, not like, not knowing how to make sense of that. You know,

Esme: 1:39:34

yeah,

Jorge: 1:39:34

there it goes

Esme: 1:39:36

and there it is..

Adriana: 1:39:36

Good, good, good shot, good,

Laura: 1:39:38

yeah, thank you all, you three and the rest of our studio audience because we have a lot of other people.

Esme: 1:39:44

Yeah, we do.

Esme: 1:39:45

Thank you Everybody, everybody, yay, yay!

Laura: 1:39:47

let's hope that Claudia sleeps well tonight...

Esme: 1:39:52

I know, because she's in a little back room.

Claudia: 1:39:54

I'm just going to put worship music all night

Adriana: 1:39:59

I want to be back.

Laura: 1:40:02

don't watch scary movies tonight,

Laura: 1:40:03

Yeah, thank you for being here!

Esme: 1:40:06

Yes, thank you so much for your story.

Laura: 1:40:08

Give it up to the bloodline,

Esme: 1:40:08

Yeah, yeah thank you for being here.

Mario: 1:40:14

Yes, thank you so much.

Esme: 1:40:15

Okay, thank you guys.

Esme: 1:40:17

All right, so that was our campfire edition scary story. It was just like so perfect because we had reviewed Bloodlines and then this had to do with three siblings. It all just kind of wound together, so it was perfect. What did you think of all this, Laura?

Laura: 1:40:30

I thought it was a really fun turnout because, I will be honest, I have heard these stories before, but never with each and every one of the witnesses side by side giving their input at the same time. So I think it just illustrated the story way more. It shows that it was obviously true because they all had the same narrative, but then they could, all you know, give their input on certain details that the other left out.

Laura: 1:40:54

So I thought it was a really good fun time and I hope everyone also, you know, had all the laughs or laughed along with us because it was such a funny.

Laura: 1:41:04

Like we weren't spooked, we were more like just super giggly the whole time yeah,

Esme: 1:41:08

I think it's just one of those things that just becomes like even though we're talking about scary stories, it was more silly than scary, right

Laura: 1:41:16

yeah, and then of course, like, if you are like from our culture and stuff, you can relate to all of the humor.

Esme: 1:41:22

So yeah, that's true, that's true, so yeah.

Esme: 1:41:25

so it's kind of cool because we ended up having three stories in one. We thought we were just going to get the witches from Mexico, but we ended up kind of going toward like the possible alien feel,

Laura: 1:41:35

the starseeds or whatever.

Esme: 1:41:38

Yeah,

Laura: 1:41:39

and then we had like a true apparition happen.

Esme: 1:41:42

I know that crazy, and yo u know what, like I'm not surprised, especially them!

Esme: 1:41:53

You know how, like I said, oh, it's the power of three. They called, they made, they manifested,

Laura: 1:41:55

and someone and someone told us later on, like after we stopped recording, that those brujas must have been so powerful and so evil that talking about them brought them

Esme: 1:42:02

like power?

Laura: 1:42:03

Yeah, they brought them back and that's why se le aparecio a Claudia,

Esme: 1:42:06

like you know what, at this point, like anything is possible

Laura: 1:42:10

we'll hold these stories for a little later, but we'll just say that like things continued to happen that same week to Claudia, like it stems from what happened here in person, but later little stuff kept happening in her house and around her. So I don't know, maybe that person is true, is correct, like we literally manifested something bad by accident.

Esme: 1:42:28

Yeah like you, wake up like old things

Laura: 1:42:30

which we don't, we never want to do.

Esme: 1:42:31

Yeah, I definitely don't.

Laura: 1:42:32

We just want to share, like, have a platform for people to share their spooky encounters, but we don't want things to keep happening to others or, like you know, to call on a demon

Esme: 1:42:41

and definitely not to us!

Laura: 1:42:43

Like we're not trying to call no demon no, so that's scary. We'll share that another time, right?

Esme: 1:42:48

Yeah, yeah definitely.

Esme: 1:42:49

Yeah, we'll share it next time, all right? Well, everyone, if you want to leave a message for us, if you want to give any feedback, if you have a story of your own to share, we would love to hear it. We would definitely love to hear it. You can send us a chicascucuy@ at chicascucuy gmailcom. And for now, thanks for joining us till.

Laura: 1:43:07

Till next time.

Esme: 1:43:07

Bye!

Jorge: 1:43:37

Wee, wee.