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Wolf Man 2025 review (Extended Episode) / Laura's spooky Cancun hotel room/ Esme's eerie hotel room
1/30/25- Join us, Esme and Laura in our special 'extended' episode! Our episodes have been sparse since we are coming to the final months of this season and we have been riddled with projects, and we know you have missed us and we have missed you! So this episode is extended to make up for that and allow you to listen in to some of the non-edited parts of the conversation that otherwise would have been!
In this episode we review of the thrilling world of "Wolf Man," where horror meets deep emotional resonance. We dive into the themes that define this film—questioning whether it truly belongs in the pantheon of cinematic horror or whether critics are simply missing the point. As we peel back the layers, we discover family dynamics, the haunting nature of regret, and how these affect our characters perceptions. The exploration of survival instincts that resonate with us all. With stellar performances from Julia Gardner and Christopher Abbott, “Wolf Man” beckons us into a tale of fatherhood and confronting one's demons.
Throughout our exploration, we dissect not just the traditional horror elements—like jump scares and grotesque imagery—but also address the emotional heart that sets this film apart from its peers. Join us as we discuss the questions it raises about relationships, responsibilities, and the chilling truths we often overlook in horror.
After the review, Laura and Esme will each tell about their individual creepy hotel room experiences, and talk about how mirrors may have supranatural qualities and also what they say about the entity people refer to as 'mimics'. After the show, be sure to subscribe and follow us on your favorite podcast platform to stay updated with our latest analyses and chilling tales!
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The Hello listeners. I'm Laura and I'm Esme, and we are Chicas.
Speaker 2:Cucuy.
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Speaker 2:This is a podcast dedicated to horror movies and real life cucuys. We take a deep dive into the horror film world and bring you the latest and greatest and sometimes the not so great. We will give you our cinematic reviews and insights to what makes them so terrifyingly good. And please beware of spoilers.
Speaker 1:We want you to be happy hearing us, not mad at us for telling you what happens, and after each session we'll feature a real life scary story.
Speaker 2:If you have one to share, we'd love to hear about it and, hey, it may even end up in one of our episodes. Tune in if you dare. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Look the thing that came out who cares what it says.
Speaker 2:We are the judges there's a big too ready.
Speaker 1:That's crazy to me who cares what they say? So, off the bat, esme is showing us that there's a 52 percent rating on rotten tomatoes. But what we always like to say is that who cares what the critics say? Because sometimes it happens that the movie's bomb and really entertaining, but the rating's low. Don't care what the internet says or what people say. You should go watch it and you be the judge. Preach side note the only movie that I feel like okay, why should I listen? Because everyone collectively saying it's a bad movie is joker.
Speaker 1:Part two oh, I still haven't, because I still have that mentality like who cares what they're saying, like let's go watch it.
Speaker 2:No, it's better to make up your own.
Speaker 1:I kind of agree with everyone, so let's see. So the movie we're talking about today is wolfman wait, we're starting off like that already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, are we adding everything that you said already, if you want to. It's about the rating. Okay, so, since she started without us introducing the movie, the movie we're talking about today is wolfman, and it's currently in theaters right now by universal pictures. Okay, so director is lee wenendell. Am I saying it correctly, or is it, I think, when now? So director is lee when now, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Director is lee when l or one wendell for the 10th time, lee when now that's the director lee, when now, obviously, once upon a time, there was a movie called the wolfman which this was adapted from, and that was in 1941.
Speaker 1:Horror fantasy, oh really just like today.
Speaker 2:So it's the same movie, but in an old school form um, I don't know, because I actually have not seen the original, the wolfman 1941, but it says here that's the adaptation and I think the so the storyline doesn't necessarily. No, the storyline is different because it doesn't have to do with like family, like it starts off with somebody's brother and the father, etc. This is the old one, the 1941, but the story is not, does not start the same.
Speaker 1:Okay at all so not that it's irrelevant, but I guess people who are true fans of this movie, you could go back in time and see where this was inspired from. But okay, let's get into the review of wolfman 2025. There's a few themes in this movie and some I appreciated, even though they're not relevant to me at all. I saw like a big. There's a lot of themes actually, like I was about to list them, but now I realized there's more. So one would be the theme of fatherhood, like what it means to be a father, the relationship you develop with your son and how it can be misinterpreted because, like an abundance of protection could lead to like distancing yourself.
Speaker 1:And then there's a big theme that is very universal, that that feeling of regret that usually is attached to a death, but the relationship like it kind of gets tarnished because of the dad's interest in wanting to protect him and and raise him to be like a survivalist and all that. But it ends up like really breaking them apart. Yeah, and then later the son, which is a protagonist in this whole movie, ends up growing up and and realizing, like now that he's a father, he can see himself and his dad, and then, once his dad is actually declared dead, then suddenly he wants to learn more about him and he wishes he could talk to him. I feel like that's such a universal theme, like you have your loved ones there and when they're there in front of you, you take it for granted and you don't reach out because he said he's like I never talked to him no more, but because I didn't want to. But now that he's gone I suddenly, like you know, feel his love, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So those are all sub themes. Can you think of another?
Speaker 2:one.
Speaker 1:But before we get to, the themes.
Speaker 2:I wanted to touch on everything that has to do with what he says. And what he says is kind of like something that probably he's thinking about himself, even though he's saying it to his daughter. And he says sometimes and I'm not quoting this directly because I can't remember exactly the wording that a dad trying to protect and not have their child scarred, sometimes their actions are the ones that end up scarring them by overprotecting them, basically, or trying to do something, that they overdo it, you know. But I think that's just like a parent thing, because parents make mistakes, because they go based on however they're raised, so they try to do things differently for their kids, but sometimes the situations are totally different, the generation is totally different, circumstances are different, so sometimes that protection doesn't even apply.
Speaker 2:Let's say, for example, a parent tries to overprotect their child because something bad happened to them as children, that they felt that their parents weren't protecting them. Then they end up overdoing something. Or vice versa. Sometimes a parent let's say their parents were like overly strict, didn't let them do anything, so then that parent ends up being more passive with their own children, but then those children end up being like more rowdy, you know, taking advantage of that or whatever. So the outcome is always still like flawed, but that's because we're flawed people anyways.
Speaker 1:This is a very good example in this movie because it kind of touches on that because of all of these points that we're just throwing out there, I would say that the Wolfman movie is a very well-developed story. The script and the storyline in general is just. It has a lot. So it's entertaining and it kind of makes me feel like it deviates off of the scary movie, thriller genre of movies, because it's more than that.
Speaker 2:It is more.
Speaker 1:It's a good movie, so go watch it yeah.
Speaker 2:I think for sure. This movie is one that we both agree that we recommend.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the hell the rotten tomatoes and like all these other, whoever like, are rating it bad, because this is a really good movie, I think. I think the actor's really good, as you know, because of apartment 7a or whatever, 13a or whatever, um, julia gardner again, I'm gonna say it one more time, I really love her acting in this one she was more subtle, but I really liked her that she was in it. And also christopher abbott, which plays the dad. He did a really good job in all aspects because you know he's the one that had to be the creature feature at the end, you know. So he did a good job. And then matilda firth that's her name, the little girl. Kudos to. And, of course, everybody else that's in it. Sam Yeager, which is the dad, grady Lovell we see a lot of him too. So what other theme did we notice?
Speaker 1:We already passed that.
Speaker 2:It was only that one theme.
Speaker 1:I said three, you try to box yours in. I felt like it was in trauma. Yeah, because he seems like he's like a disturbed adult now Trying to like flee his like nature life from his dad and now he's like a city guy. That's why he's like all gentle parenting to her. Like don't you think that's trauma? Because it's like he doesn't have to keep apologizing to his little girl for screaming at her Like he's trauma, but then again I mean dads are sensitive with their daughters, at least when they're little, right.
Speaker 1:But she's not that little and she's annoying and like getting about to get hurt. And he's still like oh, I'm sorry, I yelled at you. It's like, well, she's not listening, so it's like yeah, I just love parents like that. I think we're past the theme already. What was your favorite part?
Speaker 2:Okay, so one of my favorite parts is the geographic location. I really love how it starts off in the forest. I love that the dad is a very survivalist type of man. You know he's more like of a hunter, not not a doomsday type person, not that kind, but like he's a survivalist in the sense that they, you know, live in a cabin in the middle of the wilderness, and in wilderness is like forest, that kind of wilderness it's in oregon beautiful, yeah, the story is located in oregon and I was scared to go to oregon because my brothers one day wanted to say like, oh, let's all move to oregon in 10 years from now or whatever all the whole family.
Speaker 2:And now I'm scared. I told him, I texted him saying I don't want to go oregon anymore, watch wolfman. But anyways, the forest is really beautiful. It is actually like that in real life, even though I was in the more populated locations when I visited. But it looks so detached from like the rest of the world. It's like dang, you know, like Oregon is just above California and it looks like you're I don't know where, you know, because literally they have no people around them. So they're like really like. I mean, all you see is pines and trees and, as you know, their only real like form of communication is that TV radio right Later we find out when they return that they have no signal of any kind over there Because they're like in the middle of mountains. So that's one thing. So I do like that he's showing his kid like, okay, let's go hunting today, you know.
Speaker 1:So it's obviously something that they do often, you know, and he wakes him up like really early, like talks to him often, you know, and he wakes him up like really early, like uh, talks him in military time. Yeah, and not only that, he's like raising a man, but it was too much because he's pretty young.
Speaker 2:Like he. You can see that he just jumps out of bed and scurries to like make his bed really fast. Like you, gotta be ready. You know he finished eating, he went to go wash his cup, whatever. Okay, let's get to business. So they go out hunting. Apparently, like you know, they do show us like they're out hunting for deer and then almost immediately I feel like the movie doesn't waste time in getting us to be like spooked, you know, like wait what's happening, because this is the first appearance of like a creature and it's in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it just goes to show like the threat is out there and at first we kind of do see the dad like kind of like tripping off on the little boy, so yeah.
Speaker 2:So when they show the dad, grady and his son blake, when he's a little kid they go out to hunt and you do see that he's kind of rigid with him. But I think it is obvious to us as the audience that it is because of safety, like it's not something, that he's just like a mean dad. I don't get the impression like he's a mean dad. You can just tell that he's like really strict and because they show us like danger really quickly that there's something happening after they follow that first little deer that comes along, so yeah, so he's trying to keep him safe. And you know soon after, when the dad tries to shoot at this deer, that they find little blake runs off and he turns around to look at Blake, because the dad kind of shows us we see for the first time as a viewer a creature that's standing on both feet. Now, if we did not know that this is a Wolfman movie and I would have just seen it like fast the way they showed it, I would have thought Bigfoot, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, because it's standing on two feet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it looked like almost like it was hairy, but it wasn't really. I think it was just because they blurred it so fast, but you could tell that it was not like a normal person. So and this is like what's that little thing they call the little view thing?
Speaker 2:I was gonna say, the little sniper scope is not like a deer or something yeah, you have a little thing they put on top of rifles to like be able to zoom in on whatever your show. But yeah, like the so whatever little microscope, telescope, whatever that thing's called, he's looking at that. When we see this little glimpse and when he goes back to look at it again, it's gone. So then he freaks out and he's looking for Blake and Blake is nowhere to be found. And that's when he, I guess as a dad, panics and he's over there looking for him and then like, like, when he finally finds him, like, yeah, he talks mean to him, like where were you? And I told you, why are you supposed to run off and ended up.
Speaker 2:So I don't know if that's the trauma that he has, because if that's the trauma, and then they show him supposedly being mean to his daughter, I don't know, maybe they're just all like super sensitive, but I think that was like a normal thing. Like his dad was worried about where the hell did he go. Maybe I was raised like, like, roughly, like that, I don't know. To me that's normal parenting anyways. Like the little kid is still like what, like what's wrong, but like they started hearing like noise, like growling and like weird noises that obviously were not being done by the deer so the dad right away says oh, go to the, the deer, the deer house.
Speaker 1:It's just like an elevated tree house where you could stand and have a better like 360 view of the yeah they use it for hunting and I'm sorry that I can't remember that. It's not important what's important is what I want you to remember words that I can't remember. Okay, so that's not important but anyways, it's like basically a tree house that you come from.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was me too so like they go up there and then they close it and they could still hear something moving around and you could tell definitely it's a something big, something that sounds scary growling. We can't see anything. But then the moment that I start getting like like I was like already getting creeped out is when you could hear that he climbed whatever that was climbed, up to where they were, but they had already closed like a little wooden door. It's kind of like a little basket with a roof right, but like on top you can still see.
Speaker 1:So, whatever this, thing rough a roof rough, that's a dog bark okay, roof, I couldn't I couldn't hold it. I'm sorry, it's okay, because if I heard it, your podcast heard it, that's funny, okay.
Speaker 2:So when they climb up there and they're listening to these sounds and dad's like, okay, hold on, they see actually like it's so cold outside, obviously, that they see this animal's breath and I'm not describing it good, I know I'm not but like it's scary because they're elevated, like think of it like they climbed a ladder to get up to this little basket with a rough roof and they're up there and like they hear it.
Speaker 2:I think it was very just like the audio makes it scary because you know something's coming up and climbing up and then you see, like the breath. You can't see the animal or creature or what it is yet, but you can see breath coming up. And then when the dad, how is it that he starts climbing around? Because you see it like the dad's looking, he thinks he's gone, but then you see it behind the little boy, like behind right, so this creature is moving around, like he climbed on this thing and he's not just on the ladder anymore, he's like walking around this thing. So that already makes it for us viewing it like scary or creepy. What do you think?
Speaker 1:yeah, you could see that he has a advantage over like these humans, because the dad himself was still pointing and aiming at the direction that he was no longer in. So it just shows like they didn't die that day because it lost interest in them, not because they would have beat him. So the wolf or like that thing, senses are obviously way higher than human and they lucked out that day.
Speaker 2:They looked down I think, because we did hear like he attacked something and we're thinking most likely it was whatever deer right, like deer that was around, yeah, so he did attack something. You could hear it and yeah, and like he scurried away or something. So finally, like the dad like okay, I guess when the coast is clear, so they go back to the house, the dad at some point is like down in the basement where he has his little radio thing and he's calling someone oh, could you hear me? Blah, blah, whatever, whatever. Someone finally answers him and it's someone he knows and he the first thing that comes out of his mouth is like I saw it, I saw it. And he's like saw what he goes, you know what, I saw him, all right, it, whatever.
Speaker 2:So the little boy, like we're in his shoes at this, like we're in his perspective, because we see him go sneak downstairs and he's listening to his dad say this. He's trying to tell him like I almost hit him, but I missed, I almost had him and this and this and that. So like I guess he made a noise or the dad turned around. I guess he realized that his son was listening to him right From there. It doesn't really tell us anything. What happened after?
Speaker 1:But it gives us an idea that obviously this is something that has been happening in his whole life, like since he was a child and living in the oregon forest with his father. But you're missing a detail. Well, that's why I have you for, because it does allude to like what happens in a subtle way, so you could see that in that conversation he's telling his friend that he's gonna hunt it down and he wants him to go with him. So it's basically showing that he's committed or interested in killing him, and that's important because it looks like that might have stayed like a lifelong goal for him, because he did say like don't you want your son to be safe? I want my son to be safe. Oh, yes, definitely.
Speaker 1:So he wanted to remove the threat and he expresses that in that conversation, and then we never hear him again.
Speaker 2:That expresses that in that conversation and then we never hear of him. That is a key factor to the conversation and to the movie. Thank you a lot of for telling the listeners. So yeah, that part's important. But again, it just shows us that the dad is not just being some super strict like mean dad, you know, like he actually has his intention and his heart in the right place. He wants to protect his son because that's number one for them. So that tells us, you know, whether he's doing good or bad, like he's trying to be a good dad. Where's the mom? Nowhere. So it's just him and his dad.
Speaker 1:So the majority of the movie is revolving around this kid, but as an adult with his own family, a family of his own.
Speaker 1:So when you're watching it you'll get introduced to his wife and his daughter and it looks like they have a very close, tight-knit family. But you can tell off the bat that the dad is the one that takes the lead with his daughter, like it looks like the mom is, is very more detached, and usually the mom is, you know, the more nurturing one and the one that just resonates with like the daughter more you would think. But no, the dad is the one that's like super involved in his daughter's life and he even knows how to like make her smile and they have like inside jokes with each other. And even the mom admits at one point, like like she relates to you so much, like I'm just here, um, like she looks like she's like a workaholic and a city girl that's like always on the go talking with her editor, like on the phone, having appointments. So it's just that dynamic. It doesn't look like he's working, he's not.
Speaker 2:He's like the mom and the mom is like that like we're like being the breadwinner type thing, so I think there is a part that he says that because he says that he was in between jobs. So basically he was a stay-at-home dad. So obviously I think that that lands for why he's so close to her, especially at the age that she's in, because she gives me like 10 year old vibes. So I think the mom I know that they mentioned that she's a journalist because when she's talking this is like way later when they're talking to that guy derrick yeah, that they meet in oregon when they finally go again.
Speaker 2:This is how it discloses this to us too. But she's a journalist, so obviously she's like a full-time writer and like she's at work full-time. So maybe also that's why she feels attached to her daughter, because she's the one, she's the breadwinner at that moment, whereas the dad is fully, like, available and accessible to the daughter. I can see that happening, a mom feeling some type of way, because usually, like you said, usually the mom is the one that it takes the reins with the children. But a lot of times daughters are really attached to the dads, especially when there's no other siblings, like it's just her. So, yeah, that's that's there.
Speaker 2:So I guess they finally declared the father legally dead. So they tell us, like, as they're talking, he's basically saying like, even though he has been missing for a very long time and they kind of knew he was dead or felt that he was dead that the state of Oregon or whoever finally like sent him papers acknowledging that he's like legally, officially, and they gave him the inheritance, which is that house, the key to the house where they he grew up in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's when he starts kind of telling us like how he feels, that he feels sad. You know his daughter and his wife are asking him are you okay, how do you feel about this, are you sad? And he's saying that, yeah, he's sad because, although he avoided and left very early in age, like basically as soon as he was able to, he was gone and didn't want to look back. And I think it's part of that, like he felt isolated as a kid, just feeling bad about his dad. He does mention that it's a beautiful place, that they will love it, and he mentions it to his wife and daughter. But now he had to go back.
Speaker 2:So he took it upon himself to decide or to offer the idea to charlotte for all of them to go to the family home, because I apparently he needs to go pack up everything. And he kind of said, like you know what, maybe you need some time off from work too. You know, maybe we could go be there all summer. You know it's beautiful. There's this beautiful valley. I would love for you guys to see it. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:And we know exactly what valley he's talking about. Dad makes like comment to his son about it, saying like it doesn't get old, like no matter how many times you see this beautiful valley, like it's just that, like it's beautiful. Charlotte decides okay, let's do it. So they pack up, they go out there. You could tell that they they see, you know like they're over there driving in the middle of the forest in a rental. They even show the little welcome to oregon sign and everything and it's a rental, like like a moving truck basically yeah, like, yeah, like a u-haul, yeah so I guess he's trying to get there by memory that they lose signal so they no longer have like a gps or nothing like that.
Speaker 2:He tries to look at like a paper map as they're approaching, because he saw a driveway that he could swear is his. It wasn't like they ended up getting creeped out because the little girl's like dad, there's someone there in this treehouse and it's one of those same deer huts or whatever they're called, and there is a figure there. There's somebody standing there. We can only see the silhouette. That ends up being derek and I guess he was the son of dan, dan being the man that we heard grady, his dad, talking to back when blake was a child, over the radio, saying like we gotta kill that thing, that monster, whatever. So derek obviously is approximately around blake's age. Well, he obviously still lived there. Charlotte was getting all like spooked because she saw him approaching and she's like, oh, lock the doors and it's like.
Speaker 2:No, she was like he has a gun and he's like everyone has a gun here like yeah, you're just a city girl you don't understand, yeah, she's saying, but also like, yeah, that's a different thing, people that live out in the mountains and in the terrains where they're hunting all day and there's, like, animals that could possibly kill you, they're going to have guns. And which reminds me and we forgot to say this Remember when the little boy Blake, when he asked his dad, what was that? You know, when they were out where the deer thing is, the creature at that time got distracted and didn't kill them and the dad tried to lie to him and tell him it was a bear, when we could tell by blake's face that he knew damn well like a bear, like that wasn't a bear. And then when he overheard his conversation, he kind of knew already.
Speaker 2:like, okay, there's something else yeah, so anyways derrick approaches and again, they don't even get to the house, okay, and she starts hitting the fan already yeah, it gets night time right.
Speaker 1:And then I think the part that just gets the ball rolling is the moment that they are on the road in the dark and you just feel like something's gonna pop up in the road and sure enough, and mind you derrick is in the car with them because they can't find blake's driveway.
Speaker 2:He's lost, basically he hasn't been there for a long time. So derrick goes in their moving van right, and that's how we find out a lot of things, because he starts like doing small talk with the family.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like there's something that just appears in the middle of the road. I just thought about it that's what people think is predictable Like, oh, something popping up in the road. So something pops up in the middle of the darkness and everyone's instinct, you know, was standing and all that. I mean it was definitely standing on two legs, yeah, because they're in such a like narrow terrain and it's all forest and stuff. The truck lit and it just hits some trees and it's now like in a really dangerous position, like levitating basically yeah, they're like sideways stuck between two trees.
Speaker 2:They're like wedged.
Speaker 1:it was like a really bad accident and that's their only form of transportation in the middle of the nighttime and they're in there hurt.
Speaker 2:And no signal.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So that's what gets the ball rolling with all the action and the terror yeah, the terror yeah.
Speaker 2:It sucks because Derek was trying to be a friendly neighbor and try to, you know, help them and of course he's the first victim. He, when they're stuck there, I don't think they realize in what position they're in, because the minute he tries to open the door he flies out and he falls. And obviously that was unexpected to them and to us, but mostly them, because he fell. That's when we also realized that they're sideways and wet, so he falls to the ground. They could still see him from where he's at, but very quickly they hear a noise and it sounds like a growling, like an animalistic noise, and almost immediately I like the fact that they show blake's face and he has a face of recognition, because the face that he makes is like he recognizes that sound, like it's something he's heard before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and of course us, because we just saw it, like we like fast forwarded, like I don't know how many years later, we recently heard it when he was a little boy, so it was the same noise that he heard. So immediately he, he had a panic face and he tried his best to like, call out to derrick and whatever, only to see him dragged by something into the night. So he was trying his best to tell the girls are you guys okay, stay inside, you know whatever? And he was trying to close the door. So he's reaching over to the passenger door, like he's trying to hang on to, like, I guess, a steering wheel or something, and he's trying to close the door, like for protection, so he won't fly out or anybody else won't fly out. He is able to close it.
Speaker 1:There's an animal like thing that appears and like tries to attack him and, of course, scratches his arm and this movie, like teaches us quickly that that scratch is enough for like infection to go through right, like they didn't have to be a bite. It's not just like some curse or ritual, it's like germs. Like the moment that the blood and the claw like entered the other human flesh, he started to fall ill and just it just became like COVID or like a disease or whatever. Like R is V. The only thing that I could think of in the moment as I'm watching it is like good thing that it's delaying, because once I realized that he was getting sick, I knew immediately why. I knew it was that cut, that scene that you're talking about. I knew that that's what caused him to.
Speaker 2:You know, get sick and all that but I I was grateful that it delayed and that he was able to kind of help them, like at least get to the house, I mean for what it's worth, like he stood by them for most of it, I think, because, yeah, at first he was just hurt and he was like still trying to have them get to safety, which was really difficult because they were stuck in a truck and he had them climb out, which I think I was like cringing the whole time because I'm thinking like, oh, my god, he's having a little girl go out through the window and then like climb out to the truck, like she's out being vulnerable, this thing is outside, I could snatch her.
Speaker 2:Thankfully that didn't happen. That I think because the animal was like busy with derrick poor derrick, um and then charlotte was next, like she climbed out and then he was trying to get out. They eventually got out and they were like we need to make it to the house. So they were like running because they were like down the street, like they were like literally like right there, almost they were running and of course it was like so scary at that moment, because I always have this thinking of like imagine you're being chased and you're trying to open the door with a damn key. You know you're trying to open it and it's coming, you can see it.
Speaker 1:You have to get in and close the door.
Speaker 2:It's literally that. So like they're like trying to get into this house, like into the house and they're opening with a key and trying to get three people in there without getting killed and you can see this creature running toward them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like from the dark. It's like lunging, like an animal, like on. He looked like he was running on his on all fours. Yeah, so they, they were able to get in.
Speaker 2:Like the last second yeah, the last second they locked the door and then you could like pounding on the door, trying to get in. I don't know why that makes it 100 times scarier. We're in and whatever, but you hear something like pounding at the door. You feel like it's gonna break that door down and and like once it comes in what, like it makes you think back?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Blake. He starts looking around so we could see windows do have bars there. So obviously this is like the dad, like whatever, like he installed this like bar system on all the windows, thank goodness, and we're talking about wrought iron bars. Their house is looking like south central la in the 80s type of bars. So we're watching, we're like basically like terrorized with them. You know, we can hear and see the sounds of this creature just going around and around the perimeter of the house, just sounding like it's ready to find a way in, and it makes you feel like, hey, how are we gonna get out of this? Because remember when we first saw in the beginning, I was thinking how are they gonna get out? They can't call anyone. The nearest neighbor just got killed. Who knows if that person had other family members? Second, we already know that that animal comes out of the daytime too. This is not no nocturnal animal. Only how are they going to get out of?
Speaker 1:this. So once they're in there, I was expecting to see like a bunch of guns. Honestly, I thought that the son was going to go on survival mode and like remember where everything's at in that house, but it looks really vacant and there's not a lot of hope in arming him or the girls. I was even surprised at freaking radio work. They did try to like contact someone but they never got a connection and I think the one thing he did do was like just turn on the power of the house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was like a generator which I don't really agree.
Speaker 1:Like for me. It gave me anxiety when I first saw that, because I'm like no, I would rather be in the dark. Yeah, like so, that way the monster doesn't see me. So for me, I would rather hide in the shadows versus to have the whole house lit up now, the barn outside, and it's just like too much light, like it's attracting too much from the wilderness. You know, true, and that includes that thing, and honestly, we, we can confirm that there was only one threat. But I was even thinking like is it gonna call? Like other werewolves? Like I was wondering if there was more in the forest.
Speaker 2:I'm like, well, now, with that light, now they're all gonna come, I know but let me say this, like I think that that's like a normal thing to think what you said, like I was thinking the generator because of how noisy it was, but then I was thinking, okay, well, the animal already knows they're there.
Speaker 1:So I mean, regardless of anything, okay, I know, yeah, and then I was gonna say, like protagonist blake, once he starts like falling ill and like transforming. I don't know if it's too early to say that, but that's basically what's happening with that cut we're already talking about like infection that he's getting, you know, falling ill and all that. It's because he's starting to become like a werewolf too or a wolfman. What I'm getting at is that we see that I guess I don't know like wolves actually just see like thermal, like that, like basically light and dark. They would know if there's something there with the heartbeat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do show how, like through his eyes, how he sees, and one of the symptoms how we said that he has symptoms is that everything starts distorting so he can no longer understand words and he can no longer communicate with the girls. He obviously sees them, but he sees them in a weird, like other dimensional type of way, and this is how we learn also that he has like night vision. Basically now, because, like, we did jump ahead a little, but there's something that a lot of we'll talk about, that she wanted to say. The reason we're bringing this up is because, how a lot of said, yeah, I think our instincts as people was like oh my god, like turn off the light so they can't see us. But no, later on we see that he, he has night vision.
Speaker 2:Um, and he could see because they show us what he's able to see and like everything's illuminated. There's a time that he's outside and like the forest, how charlotte sees it all black when she's looking around and can't find anything, we could see that he sees it like if there's like light, it's like almost like thermal not even thermal it looks just like bright, it looks like like blue, yeah like ultraviolet, like it's not, like he could only see, like it, like heat, like thermal, no he could see everything like.
Speaker 2:Everything like looks just like neon or something. But okay, go back to what you were gonna say.
Speaker 1:His first symptom that was like really noticeable it was like some really loud bangs in the house that he was hearing, right, and then, and at first I think, we thought that it was the monster entering through, like the attic or something, yeah. But um, he ends up opening everything up and there's no, nothing, no sign of anything, no break-in, and it's upstairs, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he opened a closet and then he sees this ugly, ugly, ugly spider, a giant spider I was thinking in my head I'm like I am so happy I would not go to oregon another reason why I wouldn't go, like I don't want to see spiders like that huge like times 10.
Speaker 2:I already hate them little yeah, it didn't look like a spider.
Speaker 1:It did not look like a tarantula, so it was not a tarantula, it was like a giant ass spider it was a forest spider and it was like the legs moving, which you know how they have little fuzz, little hair, like to the human ear. You can't hear nothing. And what does it sound like? Like little, like a little cloth hitting the wall, like it was light. Their steps are light, I bet, but since he was starting to convert into like a hypersensitive animal, like a wolf, he was hearing those steps like if they were bangs, so that all along the bangs that he was hearing were like light steps of the spider like crawling on the wall.
Speaker 1:That a human will not be able to hear yeah, so it literally gave me like quite like, like you know, like when they show like vampires also, you know, like super heightened senses, like vision and all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was crazy I remember, minding of the 1994 movie called wolf that jack nicholson and michelle pfeiffer came out in, which is one of my favorite movies from back in the day, because even though obviously this is like also a very contemporary movie, even though it's not as new as this and it took place like in a city New York they also show that after him being bit he starts noticing symptoms, and one of them was a super heightened like audio yes, like he could hear everything, and that's one of the things when he was working in office, before he ever turned into a wolf or anything like that, he could hear conversations in other rooms and other floors across like this big building, and of course he was using it to his advantage, etc.
Speaker 2:Which made it kind of humorous. It wasn't like a funny movie or nothing like that, but it was kind of like what? Also a sense of smell. Smell he called out some people for like drinking before work, etc. You know this before he turned into a wolf also. So it reminded me of that. This is like a totally different movie, but also it has to do with someone turning into a werewolf. So that movie I recommend as well, listeners, if you guys haven't already seen it.
Speaker 2:1994 wolf, jack nicholson, michelle pfeiffer and director was mike dickles. All right, let's move on, okay. So yes, he definitely started noticing his heightened senses and that was the first one that kind of shocked him. So the first thing we noticed is like you know, charlotte, obviously she's worried and useless about him and, um, she, there is a time that they get attacked before he starts turning into anything, because there's like a doggy door outside, right, I mean a doggy door like to a back door, that the creature outside grabs him from the legs and pulls him, like he doesn't pull him all the way out, but he attacks him and it's like a scuffle and all this stuff, right.
Speaker 1:So that part's scary and Charlotte intervened.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so Charlotte, quick thinker, you know, hopefully people will always have other people's back that way. She does go and she stabs the hand and like hits it over and over again, or stabs it over and over again, finally, let's go. So I think, like the other gruesome part that sticks to my mind is like after a while, that she took him upstairs or put him on the bed or I don't know what they did, you know, because he's already not understanding her and not like being able to communicate with her. Obviously he's still looking around. He knows he's sick. I think she tells him can you write? So she hands him like a pad and paper because he can't talk. They can't understand each other. It's really, it's crazy the way they show it to us, because they show it from him, like she's talking to him and it just like muffled sounds, it's distorted, like he can't. He is able to write and he writes dying, and that only makes charlotte like more scared because she's like how the hell? How is this? Was this a good idea?
Speaker 1:we should stay at home yeah, like I think she was silent for a big part of the movie, like just kind of like soaking everything in accepting the situation, but I could tell she went from like she was like mad at one point. I could tell she was like mad and then like worried and then she just felt like obligated, like like she just felt like well, I'm in this position for no reason. She was literally me, because I would be mad too. Like even though the like something bad happened to all of us and it's not his fault, I would have have been mad Like well, we're here because of you. Like she had like a little attitude, of course, the cancer and Laura will pop out.
Speaker 1:But I think also like Her biggest fear later is more her realizing like, oh, I actually need you, and raising this daughter that like obviously loves you more than she loves me. Like I felt like she wanted it. She didn't want to obviously to face the fact that he's dying and that they were going to lose him Because she was like I'm useless, like I can't take on all the things that you do. I think she had like a self-doubt, yeah.
Speaker 2:It was just I think it's just because of the situation and then it's up and all off. Okay, that's when she starts, like, taking away his bandages and seeing like, oh my god, it's getting worse because she tries to dress his cut. But every time she opens it gets worse and worse and it got to the point that he ate it. Yes, he ate it, but like he opened it, but before he started eating it it was already falling apart. You could could see the bone, you could see his tendons, like his skin was just Deteriorated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like he had acid poured on it.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, and he started drooling. His teeth were already kind of like popping out a little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at first they started falling out and then they started coming out, like in the front they started, they started like getting weird like an american bulldog, yeah. And then next thing, you know, we see him like scratching and scratching and scratching at his wound and it already gives us goosebumps. Like watching it. We're like, oh, like, why is he doing that? I guess like he's feeling some type of way. But then he starts gnawing and that's the part that we're like what the hell actually? Gnawing on his own arm and like biting and like tearing pieces off, like he's literally eating like a turkey freaking leg or something yeah, I think for me, had I been in charlotte's position, I would have kicked him out.
Speaker 1:I would have kicked him out like way early on, even if it sounds messed up, because he still had, I guess, life in him. But I would have gotten the gist that I think I would have too.
Speaker 1:I think I'm like, no, I'm sorry he's a threat to us now because he's like doing weird stuff and it's just like, look, you're better out there with the other friend, the other creature, you leave us alone. So it was sad and for that reason that you could tell like she started. The family started to get scared of him, but they didn't want to leave him, they didn't want to desert him.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying I would yeah, and like at that time they still went outside because she spotted I'm kind of like not, why did you do that? Face, what face you right now.
Speaker 1:You made an ugly face. You scared me. I thought you heard something.
Speaker 2:You saw something right now no, I think it's what I was thinking. What were you thinking? No, no, I was just. What I was thinking was like I don't remember since we're not going chronologically because I don't know chronological anymore um, when they're out in the truck, like there's a part that, like she doesn't know what to do, yeah, but she remembers coming across the keys of the truck, so she has a bad idea to like try to flee in the car yeah, because there's like an old ass truck that you could tell that it has not been moved in God knows how long, sitting there.
Speaker 2:So, good, thinking her. She tries to, like you know, think of an idea and they go to the truck. It's all three of them, it's Charlotte, the daughter and Blake, which is like all you know. He can't, like I said, can't understand them, see them all weird. They go in the car and she tries to start it. She weird. They go in the car and she tries to start it. She brings, like she, she's like clever enough to bring like a battery, like the little starter and stuff, so she tries to start the car. It doesn't want to start, it doesn't want to start. Of course she goes, plugs in this um thing to maybe jump start it and she's trying her best and then somehow suddenly it actually turns on, it has life, and she's like, oh, my god, thank god. So the whole time we're like creeped out because she's outside, she has her daughter and blake in the back, like laying down yep and um, but he's already at one of his worst points.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like bad like he's just he looks already like really bad. She's able to turn on the car and they're about to go, but then, like the windshield is dirty, so she puts the wiper on and I think we all saw this, because even in the trailer I think they had this part right, where she sees the creature and he lunges toward her and, yes, he breaks through the window and they're screaming, everybody's screaming, whatever. The only reason they're able to get out is because he gets stuck with his arm in the the windshield and they run. But instead of running, I guess the nearest place that they could run to is like the greenhouse, right?
Speaker 2:they clam on the roof yeah, so it has like a white tent over. So they run up there and they're just trying to like hang on to dear life. They're up and this creature's trying to get them. He goes in the greenhouse. He's like from under trying to like pull them open. Of course we have a scary moment where the little girl falls through it almost and then they grab her.
Speaker 2:So there's a lot of little jump scares throughout this, but they're like yeah, like they're merited, like it's not like a jump scare and it was nothing, because shit's actually happening back to back. So I guess, like, like you know, he's trying to protect them. You know he's trying to, even though, like he can't understand or talk to them. He somehow points like for them to go in the house and then he jumps off and of course the little girl's like no, you know whatever, like mom, whatever, and she's like no, like let's run, so like she forces her and they go into the house and again she's trying to like open the damn thing. Because I'm like why do they lock that shit?
Speaker 2:I know that was so dumb oh my god, yeah, so they like they finally get in there. But you could hear and that's the thing like I think that that's another thing that brings us like fear, because we could hear what's happening and we're like in there with charlotte and ginger, we're like listening with them, like all the shit that's happening outside. We could hear like all this, like um, fighting, and it sounds like like we're thinking like is it dad getting killed? Is like, is he? Like like what's happening? So the little girl, she's like tripping on her mom, like mom, you left them out there and this and that, but she's like trying to explain to her daughter I mean, because obviously charlotte knows like he's turning into something yeah
Speaker 1:but the little girl's still like oh, my dad's sick, you know he goes in, and when they let him in, he's already inside and but again, like that's debatable whether that's that was the right decision, because I don't think I would have let him in at that point, no more.
Speaker 1:But it's because he ended up battling, like doing a one-on-one with the other creature and bingo, that's what he needed to do from the start. I feel like, just well, I think he was ready in the beginning but still like he needed to do that. He should have sacrificed himself to be like a distraction that ends up working and after he like kind of wins that little mini battle, that's when the dad goes back to the house and is trying to go back in. They let him in, but at that point that's when he starts like gnawing at himself and I think he has like a moment of self-reflection where he acknowledges that he's now going to be a threat to his family. So it looks like he voluntarily left the house, but as he opened the door the other thing was already standing there like lunging inside the house.
Speaker 2:So then it turned into another battle inside and like when was it that he spit out like a finger? Remember he spit. I think that's when he realized after, after that battle so while they were in the battle, like they end up killing the other one right, which is a really important moment it's a story why they because when they finally kill him they battled the werewolf like bit the neck of the other one.
Speaker 1:So yeah, like an animal kill like.
Speaker 2:Obviously, by now I think it's plain for all of us to see that blake is now a full-fledged like animal like him, because he's able to win and able to kill the other creature that started all this in the first place. So they have him dead in the middle of the damn kitchen.
Speaker 1:The protagonist blake, who's already basically like 90, transformed into a werewolf, is looking at who he killed and he notices he identifies like a tattoo on the on the creature and the tattoo is none other than the last name of their family and they showed us in the beginning of the movie. His dad had a tattoo on his arm. So it's kind of like a bittersweet moment because he got what he wanted, in a way like to see him one more time, but it's a messed up thing because he killed him. He basically like he realized his dad got lost to the disease and now he knows like, oh, I'm on the same path and and he killed him.
Speaker 2:That killed him. Yeah, he killed his own dad.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there was like a rush of emotions, even though he's churning already into this creature but I feel like I said bittersweet only because, like I think he made me feel like, oh, I brought him peace, like he actually like died now you know. So like at that time he does leave. And then charlotte, like she must have known about the tattoo or she just pieced it together because she noticed tattoo as well, and then she told her daughter like I mean, that was her last name lavelle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that part was crazy. I mean, we kind of knew that it like confirmed our fears, you know. So then, like he leaves outside and the girls are just stuck there and they're trying to figure out like how the hell they're gonna leave. When he goes outside, remember, he starts getting worse, like transforming more. So when he leaves, it's because he feels himself getting worse, becoming more animalistic.
Speaker 1:He was about to kill charlotte at one point, but then he like caught himself so right before him going outside, he's already super aggressive.
Speaker 2:At that moment, when he, like he almost doesn't recognize them anymore. The daughter does the thing of like tell me, dad, tell me what am I, what am I thinking right now and what am I saying, and this, and that usually it'll be the other way around. He would like say, oh, tell me what I'm thinking, and she would put, like, her hand on his forehead or vice versa, and she would say what was the thing that she would always say to him I love my little girl so much.
Speaker 1:And then they would say like oh, you read mind yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was like they're like inside like little things that they used to always do. So she was to dad tell like I know what you're thinking, tell me what you're thinking right now. Like she was trying to force at him but she already knew like he couldn't even talk anymore, but then he just kind of like like is it like the aggressiveness kind of like left him for a moment and he kind of like went into himself. So he kind of like went backwards, but then charlotte also, he almost attacked her but then, like he caught himself and he already knew like okay, I need to get the hell out of here.
Speaker 1:So he like left because that's what he was gonna do, like like moments ago, before the, the dad as the werewolf had entered, like he already had acknowledged that he was the new threat. Now he leaves, or whatever. But I think, like the animal instinct just took over him and somehow he was just really really compelled to like go back with them, probably to eat them. But I don't know if it was like a mixture of, like his old self wanting to be with his family and I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think it was the animalistic, because he just kept trying to go back to them and I'm like what do you want them? For. But before they went in, like go hunt, like I mean go kill like a deer or something you know like, he obviously had the like, the audio and the site to like go hunt in the wilderness, now that he was outside, but he knew that they were in there. I remember he he entered the house to get to the front Right or the attic or something, but before all that.
Speaker 2:I want to get to the point that when he was outside, almost completed a transformation Like we never see him like turn into a full-fledged wolf like other werewolf movies, but you do see his bones contorting and being like his knuckles and everything like looking like he has arthritis and like getting all big and gross and and everything like looking like he has arthritis and like getting all big and gross. And then like his nails fall off. The same way as his teeth were falling off, his nails fell off and like these other claws came in. So like he did do more transforming after that out when he was outside, for like his cheekbones and like his face kind of distorted even more too. So all this was happening while he was outside. And then like his chest, like his, his body looked just like different. He looked all swollen, like his nose was turning into like a muzzle, you know almost, but he still looked like human or humanoid, like it wasn't, like he turned into an animal animal.
Speaker 2:So yeah, he basically did transform into werewolf status and, like I was saying, he was trying to get inside. They were trying to not let him back inside, but he was able to enter through somewhere and again, we can't see him. Charlotte and his daughter couldn't see him, but he could see, so he was able to enter. So they do show a part where he's like really visible. He's like right next to Ginger and then I don't know like he was actually gonna attack them or, like you said, he just wanted to be in there. But at that point he's no longer blake. So, charlotte, I think she reacts and she screams and she tells ginger run or whatever, because he was like right next to her, just like squatting down or something right, but he was already fully. It's safe to say that he's no longer blake.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think it's debatable, like people who are watching the movie could see how they interpret it, because I still think it was like half and half, which is what was making it like confusing, and because he was hard I think as charlotte and the family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he was next to ginger, like he could have attacked her but he was just squatting down. So like I think he was like kind of like a, like a. You know how a rabid dog would be, like if you get close to him he's gonna bite you and he'll growl at you, like if you have in the room but like let's say he was your dog at one point, maybe he won't bite you.
Speaker 1:I don't know, like I don't know who's kind of one of those things but it's like you don't want to risk it, you don't want to find out.
Speaker 2:But obviously like. He's not the same.
Speaker 1:No more like basically no, yeah, like he can't think like a human being anymore so this whole encounter causes them to flee the house because now they don't have a safe space or like enclosed doors where there's like that division between the wolf and the family. So they end up going to like the next structure, which is the barn across the little house. But it's the same situation that he ends up going in there and again they're challenged with, like the lack of light and all that, and and he could see perfectly. So the same exact thing happened, it's just that this time he slowed down because he ends up stepping on a bear trap, which is scary, because it could have been someone else who stepped on it. Yeah, so it's good, it's a good thing that it was him, which gives them a head start to continue to flee and run away.
Speaker 2:At this time, when he's stuck in this bear trap, which obviously his dad put there for that purpose. Why would a bear trap be in there? Like, obviously it was for that. It was a booby trap.
Speaker 2:So like he actually got caught in it and the girls do flee. And he's trying to pull and pull and pull, but he can't. And because he's already animalistic style, like he doesn't have the capacity to know how to open it, Like a human will be like, oh, you press this button and you release it. He doesn't know how to do that. At that time he's pulling his leg. He's pulling his leg and the only thing that I guess he resorts to, like a lot of wild animals do, is to start gnawing at their own leg to like release themselves. So obviously he cannot gnaw at this iron trap, but he starts gnawing at his leg and we don't think necessarily that he's going to break free from it.
Speaker 1:But lo and behold, he does it was so bad and I initially thought that him being entertained, you know, with that leg, was going to take more time. So I was like, okay, good for the family, they could continue running. Like, okay, good for that, the family, they could continue running. And I most definitely thought that it was a good thing that he was in that position, because most definitely he was going to be slowed and it was just going to set him back from chasing them through the forest. But no, somehow, very unrealistically, he's like running like in full force, like if he has turbo on him and he's actually using all fours at that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but think of it one leg has like bone exposed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, yeah, I thought it was in slow him down and it didn't.
Speaker 2:I mean it's a little down, but very briefly yeah but, by that time the girls were in the forest left, like the area of like, where the home and all that was. Yeah, she took the gun.
Speaker 1:Well, because they ended up in their crash site.
Speaker 2:And then derek, when he died he had a gun and they found it so like when they're running for their life, they come across their old truck that's still stuck up in the trees and the dead body of derek along with his rifle. Thankfully, little girl stumbles. Like all that part's like, oh like. It gets you all nervous because you know they're trying to get away. And of course you people fall down when they're scared and running in the forest and they can't see they're trying to get to safety and they see that same hunting deer little treehouse thing. So they climb up in there and almost the exact same thing happens. Like they're up there, they're trying to hide. They obviously know the dad knows they're up there. The mom at this point, charlotte, she knows that she's gonna have to like maybe kill him. And he's climbing. So again we could see the breath up on top, the same as when blake was little the difference is, at this time he does show, like his hands in his face.
Speaker 1:He does face them and again, I'm still not entirely sure if, like, there's a part of him that's still like compelled to them only because it's the old human in him, like knowing it's his family and he wants to like be with them, or if he's there because he wants to eat them, because he everything is delayed, like he just doesn't act so you don't know if he's thinking or trying to think, I know yeah, but I could tell that charlotte, I could tell that her biggest hesitation was that little girl, like I don't think she wanted to do anything because she knew, like I don't traumatize you, I don't want to like be left alone, like with her, and to raise I don't think that was.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think that was yeah, I think so because she was very unsure of herself from the start. So I think that was her too, like just accepting, like okay, is he really gone and do I really have to shoot him or is he gonna leave us alone? But then the little girl gave, I think, the mom the reassurance that she needed all along. She's like he wanted to, she wanted to be over, and I feel like her saying that in that moment in time was so crucial because it gave her the confidence to shoot his ass when she needed to, because if not, I think they would have died.
Speaker 2:Yeah I think they would have died. But I also to see it like. I know you already said the climax right now. I wanted to talk about it before we said that part, but I, um, I feel like she was hesitant because she didn't want to shoot, be the one to shoot him and have her daughter resent her for shooting him.
Speaker 2:You know how in the beginning she was like mom, but but he's sick, how could we leave him? You left him and then she even had to go and say he was trying to protect you. He wanted us to come in the house. That's the reason. So then the daughter, oh, like, accepted that, like, okay, like she understood. But the mom had to point that out. So I think she felt like if it would, would have been hurt by herself, she would have shot him already. But because she didn't want to shoot him in front of her daughter and her being the one to blame, or her daughter, like, resenting her, thinking like you shot my dad in the face, you know something like that so maybe it was a combination of all these things.
Speaker 2:You know the daughter had to say it like she. You know the daughter had to say it for her to basically give her the green light. So okay, let's shoot him and, yeah, she finally shot him and so maybe like there was a part of him that understood like this happened. And I don't want to be like this.
Speaker 1:But that's the end, like basically, that's the end, like they ended, I guess, the curse. Hopefully he was the last one of his kind, hopefully, but we don't know.
Speaker 2:Let's go back to the very beginning. Remember how, like the little intro that they showed us, yeah.
Speaker 2:Saying how, in 1990, something, there was a hitchhiker. Hitchhiker, there was a. There was a what do they call him a hiker? A hiker that was lost in the woods and that he got something that people called forest fever forest fever. But then they actually add but the natives that lived there called it and they said there's something in a native language and it translates to wolf face. So there was like a, a disease. It sounds like almost like it wasn't something like. I mean, is it only passed down from wolf to wolf to wolf, or was it something you could just catch by being in the wilderness so long? Like, how did the dad catch it? We don't, we don't know that part, but maybe because he was so adamant about catching the other one, maybe he did catch him, but maybe he got bit or like scratched and he became one but like obviously we know that blake was scratched and then he got it like he caught contagious or whatever.
Speaker 2:But the differences about like the other wolf movies that we've seen is that the moon has something to do with it. The moon makes it come out, it brings out like total transformation.
Speaker 1:This has nothing to do with the moon.
Speaker 2:This is just like you became this creature, and the closest thing to this creature would be a wolf, based on what the natives were describing wolf face, but I mean, it was just a beast like basically so yeah, it's a wolf man, but it's a werewolf, nothing like the old school.
Speaker 2:You need a silver bullet to kill it, or it only comes out of the full moon none of those things so I mean, in that case it is different, different twist than the ones that we've seen in the past, but overall, what'd you think of the?
Speaker 1:movie. I thought it was really entertaining from beginning to end actually, and I'm trying to give it a scary rating, like how I always ask you, like what's the scare factor to the movie. I'm thinking I'm gonna give it a, not the movie rating but, how I always say, the scare factor. Again, I'm gonna give it a 6 out of 10 because for me I didn't feel like there was a lot of jump scares or moments where I had to close my eyes there. There was a few, but not it wasn't like a heavy thing in the movie that I was like oh my god, this is terrifying, like this is scary. It wasn't, and that's why I initially said that for me this film kind of deviates to another genre which would be more thriller and like fantasy rather than just scary and horror, because it's it's not just that, even like the gruesome part, like it's not that bad. So I would say six out of ten like scary, or it's up there with the big dogs, either with like horror, horror and scary, if that makes any sense. But it's subjective.
Speaker 2:This is my opinion yeah, I mean we already know that there's like an umbrella horror, but there's different genres of horror or sub genres or whatever. This is obviously like the old school, like monster, yeah, so like this is like obviously like a monster movie. So it goes back to like this is one of the original monster movies that we had back in the day, like Dracula, the Wolfman or the Mummy, like Frankenstein, frankenstein, the wolfman or the mummy, like frankenstein, frankenstein, yeah, like, like. Those were like the original monster movies that were created that everybody knew about and they're known worldwide. So before there was anything paranormal like horror, and before there was any like zombies and this and this, and that these were like the classic monster movies.
Speaker 2:Keeping that in mind, I do like that they rebooted this movie. I mean it's been done in different ways, just as like the classic monster movies. Keeping that in mind, I do like that they rebooted this movie. I mean it's been done in different ways, just as like the vampire movies, just like how many? There's like a dime, a dozen. There's like so many there are they all good?
Speaker 1:no, but there's a lot of them werewolf movies.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of them, not as many as vampire movies, but there's several throughout the decades that have been made, but even though, like some of the ratings like we said mentioned earlier, like are not that good.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure why I find that this movie was really good and it's not just in the horror side of it because, like you said, it's not like super, like frightening, frightening. But I do disagree with the jump scares because I thought there was a lot of jump scares, but maybe that's just like I was not expecting that many jump scares you know what I think.
Speaker 1:For me too, it's like a psychological thing when I when I'm referring to the jump scares, for me, like effective jump scares are like the paranormal ones that are really scary that would be ugly, like a demon or a ghost. But because I knew this movie didn't have that, maybe that's why I wasn't so scared watching it, because, like you said, like it's a monster, so like.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm saying it's subjective, it's subjective yeah, I mean because, like I said, I mean I, I like paranormal movies a little bit more, but I like the genre of like a lot of the werewolf movies that I've seen. I like them and that's something that's new for me to acknowledge, because I do like I'm thinking about the ones that I've seen in the past and I like them. All, you know, to me, I, I felt like it did have a lot of jump scares. There was just like we're like that. I, I felt myself actually literally jump, like. I jumped like, oh my god, oh my god, like this, and it was almost since the very beginning okay, I didn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't experience that, but maybe because I wasn't that afraid because of the fact that I knew the nature of the movie. Yeah, and like, on the contrary, like a really effective jump scare for me would be when I'm watching the nun and then I am like, oh my gosh, she's about to pop out.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, because it's a different feel, for sure. I mean, like when it's paranormal it's a definitely a different feel, but I mean, but it doesn't stop it from being jump scares, like I guess, like for me it made me jump, so I really liked it, though, like, nonetheless, it was really good.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like scary wise. No, like I feel like you could watch it with someone who's a chicken.
Speaker 2:No, you can yeah, like it is like, uh, like you don't have to be a horror fan to enjoy this movie. You don't like? That's something that like it's.
Speaker 1:It also has like thriller and I and I love thrillers, so for me it was like up there.
Speaker 2:I really don't understand the ratings either of others that put it poorly, but I know but I mean they're mixed because there's some that like speak very highly on it and maybe it didn't do as well, like in the box office or with reviews, because it was so close to nosferatu that I think people were still on the nosferatu vibe that when this came out it kind of like paled in comparison because people were more into like the movie yeah.
Speaker 2:So maybe it affected like the box office um tickets, but I mean I would definitely watch this movie again. I did enjoy this movie thoroughly and, as a matter of fact, I recommended it today because I had just it was still fresh in my mind, so I still recommended it today. So, for all you listeners, I give it an a plus. I do really like it, especially if you are into monster movies. Like for a monster movie, it's not just a monster movie, like we said, like there's a lot of dynamic and things that we could like see within the storyline for me.
Speaker 1:I'm a little slower with guessing what's gonna happen and stuff, but I know you for a fact. You had already picked up like the twist because you had mentioned it like not even a third of the movie in, and then that's one of the one of the things that they're docking off points of the movie, right, that it's so predictable. So you could let us know if you think it was predictable or if you think it had those traits that were like too cliche. I didn't pick that.
Speaker 2:I don't pick up on that, but I'm slow, so I mean, I think the only reason I pick up on things like that is because I'm a very avid movie watcher in general, not just horror, but in general. But you let us know it's still good. So, and let us know what you think. Yeah, so, hopefully, um, you guys check it out. So you guys let us know if you guys liked it. And now we're gonna take you to our scary story. Stay tuned, okay. So now we're going to begin with our true scary story, and this scary story is actually going to come from our own Laura. We did mention last episode that Laura was on her little vacay. Her story actually happened while she was out there, so this is very recent am.
Speaker 1:I right Laura yes, so this occurrence happened within the last week. It's very recent, as she just said. It happened while I was in Mexico, in the Yucatan Peninsula, cancun whatever. Cancun is right away. Why did I think it was like near Oaxaca or by Oaxaca, I don't know. You need to look at a map. Americans are the worst at geography. We know that and you're proof.
Speaker 2:You're proof? No, okay, is it? Maybe it is, is it no?
Speaker 1:holy, it's in the peninsula of yucatan. That doesn't mean what is the question you want to answer right now, how close it is. Is it to oaxaca? Because I don't say, search up a map, while I ask siri, cancun is in the yucatan peninsula, but damn see, I'm out myself now because I I'm blanking out on the word. No, is it the state? I don't, yeah, yeah, I'm like maybe I'm being dumb right now too, but it's like cancun comma, and then quintana roo, oh, quintana roo, okay, but I said yucatan because that's like the bigger part, yeah, the peninsula no but I'm telling you like translating it to like inglewood comma california, california.
Speaker 2:But you know, like la we're in southern california and we're in la county I'm trying to see, like where yucatan fits into that.
Speaker 1:I know Cancun is like the.
Speaker 2:Inglewood. Just the fact that you said peninsula, I know that it's a region, it's like a geographical like region and nothing to do with states or cities. No, but it is Yucatan, is there?
Speaker 1:too though.
Speaker 2:No well, yucatan is probably in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're like Oaxaca is far away from it. Guatemala is basically in between. Nah, nah, basically it might as well be almost in between Yucatan and Oaxaca, all the way over here. Guatemala is in between, basically. That's where you fit into the stereotype of Americans.
Speaker 2:But how could it be in between if both sides are Mexico?
Speaker 1:I said basically because the little thing that goes over here to like Honduras, Nicaragua. The Guatemala is right here, yucatan is this and Oaxaca is all the way over here. To like Honduras, nicaragua, the Guatemala's right here, yucatan is this and Oaxaca is over here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's closer to Mexico City To keep it simple.
Speaker 1:I was visiting Cancun and during my stay there, I stayed at a resort called Fiesta Americana Condesa, and the room that we were given was room number 567. I'm gonna throw it out there because I don't know. It just seems interesting. I don't think my experience has anything to do with it, but if you want to think about like luck and numbers I don't know Consecutive numbers right there what does that mean? I don't know? 567. When you're planning a trip, you always hope for the best and you hope that all the plans are aligned. Yeah, like you want everything to run smoothly. And unfortunately, leading up to my trip, I was under the weather, so I had to recover really fast and, with that in mind, some of my stay, you know, over there was a little hazy, but I wasn't giving it too much importance or anything, because I wanted to be more okay than than not.
Speaker 1:so I wanted to, you know, really manifest that you were helping yeah and I wanted to embrace you know everything and just be in the moment. Nonetheless, I will say there was parts of my trip that are like a little hazy and I didn't feel 110, but still like I had a great time and the only reason why I'm bringing this up is because part of my fast recovery and and being able to, to be okay, you know, to even fly and all that and just you know, be with the spirits of traveling. I was under medication. I had, you know, a few antibiotics, a few pills to take and, yeah, like coming from someone who doesn't regularly take medicine, even like a simple Tylenol like I, just I won't be the first to take it. It has to be like a very special case of like cramps or something that maybe I'll take it. Yeah, I felt like a lot of the medicine, like taking it collectively all at once. It was hard on my body. It made me feel better.
Speaker 1:Now that you have a backstory of what my mental state was during that time in Mexico, it's important to note again, it's a little hazy. I wonder if the medicine that I was taking altered my perspective and what I experienced, and I also want to say that I completely forgot that all of this happened up until I was home. And I was kind of just you know how everyone does when you're back, like retelling what you did, explaining the highlights of your trip, and then like I think if my boyfriend would have never said anything, I think I would have probably completely forgot, like exactly what happened one night. And I'm kind of happy that he brought it up, because now I was able to tell others. And then now it's like okay, I can't forget this. So if that makes any sense, no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:I just I'll put it in simple terms I forgot that it happened, but the next morning I said what happened. So that's the only reason why he knows that that this happened. So, whatever, when we're talking about the trip and all that, it just came up. He thought I was referring to that night and I was like wait, I completely forgot.
Speaker 2:So when he reminded you, did like, like the memory just like rushed back into your head, or were you like, oh yeah, I remember little by little no, no, no, not little by little, it was just like a switch.
Speaker 1:It's like a memory that is in my head, but it wasn't up until someone it felt like I was under a spell, like he like broke my spell that's so great, like it suddenly just all was there.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh yeah, that happened. Okay. So in this room, five, six, seven, we were sleeping, but I was having a really hard time sleeping most nights and that night was no different. So when I say we, I just meant, I just mean to say it was time to go to sleep, like we were in bed. So I wasn't freaked out by the fact that I had insomnia, because I had already expected that that would be a side effect to all of the medicine that I was taking. So it was just something that I was just dealing with, and the what makes this story creepy, or what makes it scary, is the fact that I was the only one awake. So next to me I could clearly see, like my boyfriend, like a statue, like just still he was out, and I know that for a fact, because now we would have probably been chit-chatting still, and the tv was off, the lights were off, like I know that it was just me awake. And what time was it?
Speaker 1:it was I don't know I have no idea I have no idea.
Speaker 2:Like you, had you guys just gone to sleep, or was it like?
Speaker 1:maybe like midnight one, I don't know, I think midnight one or two, like those, that that little gap of three hours. It might have been somewhere in that time, but I wasn't on my phone or anything. I wanted to go to sleep, that was my goal and I didn't want any distractions. So my eyes were shut, but I was wide awake, if that makes any sense. So I was trying to get myself there and then I remember hearing him shout. I don't remember right now what he said, like I can't tell you. Like this is what I heard him say, but I know that it was his voice and I know that he screamed.
Speaker 1:So, like, has anyone in the audience ever like woken up? And you kind of like you don't know what woke you up, but you know that it was a sound. There was a sound that just happened and you're kind of like it's kind of like a echo of a sound that maybe happened, but you're just not sure because now it's silent. Yeah, so that's the feeling that I had. But since I was awake, I did hear his voice, I did hear him shout, but something up in me like I just knew it wasn't him, and I guess that's what makes my story weird because was I scared? Did I think it was a ghost? No, I honestly thought I'm just tripping, because I know that he's dead asleep. Why would he shout anything?
Speaker 1:And yeah, it caused me to open my eyes and I kind of seen I didn't even turn to look his direction. That's how confident I was that it was just my imagination or like a meeting, because I just saw from my peripheral vision he was still in the same position. It was not like he was up or trying to talk to me. Now I was like, yeah, I don't think that happened, but that's an auditory thing that I experienced. I heard his voice and I heard him shout, like he said something, but I'm like, no, he didn't say anything. Like he's asleep. So in that same time period, like almost right away since my eyes were open now, I was just staring at our room in the dark and, like looking at the ceiling, there happened to be a mirror, those long mirrors that you could see your whole outfit like a full length, basically against the wall.
Speaker 1:But the way the room was arranged, it's the bed and then in front there's that wall with I, that door that leads to the other room, and on top of there was that full-length mirror. So from where I'm laying down since I'm to the right side of the bed I'm the closest to the mirror. Therefore I could see, like the reflection that the mirror's casting, and I see a woman in the reflection. It's still that same feeling of like I don't think this is real. Or like Still that same feeling of like I don't think this is real, or like I think I'm tripping and that's the only reason why I bring up the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Of like I was sick and I was taking medication, it was hard on me, like that's the only reason why I bring that up, because I didn't have those immediate feelings of fear. Or like this shit is haunted and what the fuck? Like there's someone in our room. I never thought that. I just saw you know the reflection and I the fuck like there's someone in our room. I never thought that. I just saw you know the reflection.
Speaker 1:And I'll tell you what my immediate thought process was like. Okay, I need to close my eyes and get my ass to sleep, because the sooner I fall asleep I'm not gonna hear shit, I'm not gonna see anything, so I'm safe. But in the reflection let me get a little bit more detailed now the woman was standing right in front of the mirror and I could see her whole outfit. I could see her, but it was only her reflection. So I didn't never saw like a person in the room with us and I think that may have played a part in why I wasn't scared, because I knew that I didn't see anyone else. So I just saw the reflection and I'm like yeah, like it's in there.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'm not sure how that makes it less scary, but go on.
Speaker 1:I saw her like for like a like I want to say like a scene, like if we're in movies or whatever, like I had there was a scene of her in the shot, but then I didn't bother to check if she was still there. I don't think she was still there anymore, like after I moved around, but I just I just wanted to go to sleep, like I'm like this is what and everything, if I'm just knocked out like the way homeboy is over here next to me, like I want to be like that. But she was dressed in purple. She had like some type of veil on her head and the best way I could describe it is like the hindu girls that have like like the belly dancers, like they have like princess jasmine, like pants with like the crop top.
Speaker 1:She looked like that, like she even had like little gold jewelry, like um hanging at the waist, like she looked like a hindu girl and my favorite color is purple and she didn't say nothing. She didn't do nothing. But I saw that I heard. Was she looking at herself in the mirror or she's looking toward you, what? I think she was looking at herself, but keep in mind, like I'm in the dark. So I saw, like I saw, this in the dark, and this whole experience, I think, scared me progressing on to the trip.
Speaker 1:Another day I was in the restroom sink but, like you know how some hotel rooms are arranged, where like the only private part is the shower and the bathroom but the sink and the mirror is, like, still part of the room yeah so that's, that's how this room, this, uh, where we stayed at, that's how it was so technically, like me and my boyfriend in the same vicinity you know what I mean like it's not like we had like a wall or like a door to separate us, we had like a half wall and that's where I was in front of.
Speaker 1:I was in front of the mirror I don't know if I was brushing my teeth or whatever, I was in the sink but he was just right on the other side on the bed on his phone and I heard him say something to me again and I was like, and it was his voice, and I asked him if he had said something. And I tell me, you just said something right now. And he's like no, I didn't, I wasn't talking to you, I didn't say anything. And I was like I just I just heard someone say something like in the room and it sounded like it was in our room, like really crisp. If you ask me, what was it? I forgot already like I don't know, but he told me it's not like his voice or just a voice.
Speaker 1:It sounded like this time. It sounded like just someone said something like a vivid voice, but I just categorized it as like it must have been. It should have been him. Who else?
Speaker 2:you know, not necessarily did it sound like him specifically, but like a man like a man, yeah, so that's why I'm like, oh, it's him.
Speaker 1:But once I realized he didn't tell me anything, he was in silence. Basically, I was like what I'm like? Because I I feel like I heard you, like I thought you said something, so that's another thing that happened. So I don't know, as you may or may not know, mexico and the employees and all of that, like just the especially like hotels and all that. They're known for their hospitality and they're always trying to complacerte and make sure, yeah, be very accommodating. So it's not like a big surprise that they're gonna inquire about how your trip is and all that.
Speaker 1:But we did have an excess in employees all the way from like front desk to employees just passing through in the hotel, down to people in the buffet, like in the food part of the hotel, asking us if our room was okay, if we had any problems, if everything was okay, but to the point that sometimes some workers would almost be like fishing, like like they wanted us to reply like, oh well, well, can we have? Like maybe this could be better. Could we change this? Like it looks like they were expecting us to say something, which a lot of times it would be awkward, because it's like me and my boyfriend were already like telling them like, oh, everything's good, thank you so well.
Speaker 1:I had like a little incident where, like I whatever I like hit myself with one of the cabinets and, because it was loose, like it was supposed to be hooked on, but it just fell. It just fell so that I would have never complained about that, but because so like they were fishing or like so they were pressuring us a lot about that was something we mentioned at the end, like oh well, this, I guess, is like like if, since you're really asking like okay, well, maybe this they were expecting us to say like our room is weird or like haunted. Have you experienced anything paranormal in your room?
Speaker 1:yeah, like they were not asking us nothing like that, but they were for real um just bombarding us.
Speaker 2:It makes like did other people ever have anything to say that stayed in that room.
Speaker 1:I guess Because one thing that I will note is that they knew what room number we were staying in, because to get into the food places you have to say what room, que habitacion? So it's not like they were like oh well, they're just Randomly Like they knew. They knew we were in 567. Like the way that hotel works, we basically had the room number on our forehead, like they knew where we were coming from.
Speaker 1:I feel like the fact that I didn't get scared or like I didn't freak out and feel like oh shit, like something's happening, it makes it like more subtle for me, but nonetheless, it's a weird thing, because if you're at a hotel, you don't know who stayed there and you know there's a lot of energy in hotel rooms and bad things can happen. It's just like there's so many people that have been in 567 before us. So hotels are always sketchy in that way. I think what makes it weirder is the fact that we were in Mexico. Like, oh, shay was, like, I was in home, I was in Mexico, and how many endless stories are there in Mexico. You know, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people have experienced things in hotels, but sometimes, like it's easy to blame things on, like, oh, you know they hear a noise, oh, maybe it's the people next door, maybe the walls are thin, maybe this, maybe that you know, or you know the voice carried through the vents. Like people could think that way, you know, especially because you said like you heard a man's voice. But at the same time, I think that you're able to tell sound is coming from inside your room, like it sounds like they're right next to you or they're in the same space as you. So that's something that people that aren't there may like throw at you. Like oh well, it could have been someone next door, but it's like okay, I could tell if it's a muffled sound from next door, as opposed to someone in the room that the noise or sound or voice came from in the room.
Speaker 2:Um, I remember there was this one time that I stayed at a hotel once. I went to a concert that was a little bit out of town and, um, we had gone out there and there was definitely something weird about the room we stayed in. It was like very subtle, and the good thing is that we had got there really late and we left early because we just wanted to go home.
Speaker 2:So we only stayed there like I don't know we got there like at two like yeah, like we got there like probably 2 am, that we had checked in, we had dressed there to go to the concert and we still, like went out after the concert and then when we went in, like it was a short period of time, I remember it was before going to sleep or after. No, it was before going to sleep and maybe in the morning too. So, like I remember the first thing that I noticed, I said like my phone kept disappearing. And this is like really strange because, like you know, there's like a mueble or like a you know nightstand thing next to usually on both sides of the bed and I had put like maybe like my earrings, jewelry, whatever, and my phone.
Speaker 2:I want to put my alarm because I did want to, like we did want to wait at a certain time to just get back. So like I put my alarm just in case. But then at some point I wanted to check the time or I don't know what it was, like I grabbed my phone or I tried to grab my phone. My phone wasn't there, and both times that this happened, phone was somewhere totally different. So the first time I remember my phone, like I was looking for it, I'm like, hey, where's my phone? I looked under my pillow. I'm like maybe I left it on the covija, the little thing, whatever. No, to the point that I had to turn on the light and I, like looked for my phone and it wasn't there and I'm like where the hell's my phone?
Speaker 2:I had it right here I put the alarm, I set it right next to the thing, so I mean I know where I had it and I found it like almost like behind the bed, like behind the bed, on the floor. Behind the bed. It was like really strange, not even like, let's say it fell or whatever, like there's no way, how's it gonna go in there, you know? So that was the first strange thing. And then, like like the second time, I think it was in the morning and it wasn't like in a weird place, like that, but it was on the floor, like over there, and I'm thinking how is my phone moving, like that, you know? And then another thing is that my boyfriend he woke up because he says that he felt like uh, like a thing. I didn't feel that I was asleep, but he felt like something like pushed or like a vibration on the bed.
Speaker 1:On the bed okay, these are these. You guys got two in one, it was three in one. No, I, I'm saying the listeners, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:This is a good story, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because this one's actually turned, this one's like way more interactive than mine, but see, but okay, but Like a haunting, you know.
Speaker 2:But it was nothing that we visually saw Did it work.
Speaker 1:It's not like we didn't see any apparitions. We didn't get scared your apparition no you saw a lady in the mirror. Like I meant like the voice, oh, like that shit's not going to scare me, but it wasn't him, I know. But psychologically, I think that's why I'm like I was maybe also so like whatever, because I'm like, well, I'm imagining his voice, I'm gonna tell you. Why would a ghost want to be him? That's not gonna scare me a mimic, oh I forgot to say that.
Speaker 2:No, we're not forgetting, we're talking about it right now, okay but you go first. Yeah, let me finish this, because let me wrap my thing up so anyway, it's good, though it was like, yeah, it was like a push or something.
Speaker 2:he felt it. I didn't feel it, but he's like, hey, I felt this and I'm like what the hell? So I was like, okay, this is getting weird. And my phone two times missing, cause I know I did not drop my phone and he didn't grab it. No, he was like over there and like, let's say, for whatever reason he grabbed it, why he would throw it on the floor To check in you were coming and he threw it. No, we weren't sleepy Like we were. I didn't completely fall asleep like the first time, it was while I was there and I heard almost like a noise, like you know, when your phone is on vibrate.
Speaker 2:yeah like I heard like my phone like, like some, like something, that my phone was not vibrate. I never heard on vibrate, so later I think that's why I tried to check it, but then it wasn't there.
Speaker 2:It was like behind and then the last last thing that we're like and it was in the morning but I was like, okay, let's get the hell out of here was the light like in the hallway.
Speaker 2:You know how usually there's like a light in the hallway and maybe like lamps inside the room. There was no really like overhead light, oh yeah, but and then like and then go around the corner that's where the bathroom is, so I can't remember if it was the bathroom light that was like this that was on, or the hallway, like there was a light that was left on. The room was completely dark. It's still bright, but it wasn't like it was here next to where we could see. It was like around, like the closet area, like that. So it wasn't like hitting our faces or anything, but it was dim enough that you could still leave on. So it was on, and in the morning, because the curtains are pretty dark, even though it was already morning, it was still dim in the room. But I remember the light in the hallway did like a, you know, like a flicker. It wasn't even a flicker, it just like it like dimmed, like it started getting like black, black, black, black, black and after a while it turned on again.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't like that, like that's like a switch. You know it wasn't the type of light that would dim and I've never seen a light do that, even when, like, a light bulb was going bad. I've never seen it just like suddenly go dim, dim, dim, dim, dim and like stay dim and then like go back. I've never seen it do that. It was just like a weird. It felt weird, it looked weird, it was subtle and then, but definitely noticeable and it was in the hallway and I told mario.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know what? Let's, let's hurry up and get the hell out of here I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't like this room, let's leave, let's get the hell out of here bye. I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything, but those things were already strange, I mean, and it made me think and we both were left with the impression like, yeah, those things were abnormalities, something was up with that room. I didn't feel scared, but I knew something was wrong there. So I think it's one of those things you don't necessarily always get scared. When something's happening Like you know it's not normal, do you always feel scared immediately at that time?
Speaker 1:I don't think so. Like my first hotel, the first story I shared in the um on the podcast about the luxor if you haven't heard it, go hear it that one's more interactive and that has to do with me that one was more like well, um, I was, I was immediately scared. This time I wasn't, which is strange.
Speaker 1:But see, that's the thing you, I feel like it because it was confirmed like oh my god, like it was just more confirmed that it was a haunting and that there was possibly something in the room with me at that same time, since it was like immediate. Yeah, which is contradicting because my story, like clearly I was living it real time too, like there could be something in the room with me in that moment, but it just wasn't hitting the same.
Speaker 2:Maybe because it was like a light turning off. It's more like, oh crap, now I'm in the dark. I mean, think about this. You were looking at a mirror and you saw a person in a reflection. I can understand, like maybe because you were like sleepy, because sometimes I think when we're sleeping like my goal.
Speaker 1:My biggest goal was to go to sleep, but I wasn't drowsy yet.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying like. Like it's kind of weird that I'm not saying it's weird that you weren't scared. I'm saying like you actually saw like a physical thing in the mirror. It was like you didn't see it in the room, but you saw it in the reflection. You know what they say about mirrors and all that stuff. What do they say?
Speaker 1:that they're conduits to, like you know the spirit world, and that could be you know how.
Speaker 2:They say like yeah, you shouldn't sleep facing a mirror. You shouldn't um, don't tell me that there's like certain things. You know what? We should look it up my phone, okay.
Speaker 2:One reason which has nothing to do with paranormal Mirrors can bounce around light from night lights, electronics or even moonlight, making the room feel brighter. It disrupts the body's natural sleep cycle, which needs darkness for deep sleep. Now let's get to other kind of reasons. Mirrors can reflect movement or objects in the room, creating confusing visual environment. Brain can be especially distracting if you see yourself moving or shadow shifting, making it harder to relax, potentially leading to anxiety. And then there's some weird things. That is that. Okay. One disrupted energy flow.
Speaker 2:We know that feng shui emphasizes unbalanced energy and we know that the way they set up their furniture blah, blah, blah bad dreams mirrors had to capture and hold on to bad emotions and thoughts which can lead to disturbed sleep. Frightening dreams when they face the bed, says focus on vanity. Visible reflection is believed to by Feng Shui practitioners to promote excessive focus on physical appearance, which potentially hinders personal growth. Self-reflection that's something else. Encourages cheating. When directly facing the bed, the reflection doubles the romantic energy of those sharing the bed, potentially encouraging infidelity or unconsciously inviting external influences. That's fucking weird. So in various cultures, mares are believed to possess mystical powers acting as portals to other worlds or as traps for spirit. Haunted mirrors, in particular, have captured the imagination, with tales of cursed or ghostly reflections persisting across time and geography okay.
Speaker 1:So yeah, clearly mirrors have a are a conduit of energy, like you're saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of the most prevalent beliefs about mirrors is that they serve as portals to other realms, particularly the world of the spirits. The idea is rooted on the notion that mirror does not just reflect our physical appearance but can also capture exposed hidden dimensions, cultures and civilizations. Mirrors are believed to be gateways through which spirits can enter our world. This is why, in certain traditions, mirrors are covered or removed from a room where a person has recently died, the fears that the soul of the deceased might contract in the mirror or use it as a passageway to return to haunt the living. As you know, there's that bloody mary game that exists because, according to a legend, if a person stands in front of a mirror in a darkened room and chants bloody mary three times, that spirit of mary will appear, and sometimes with terrifying consequences.
Speaker 2:Stories originated as a children's dare or has deeper roots in folklore. It illustrates how mirrors are often seen as conduits to dark, otherworldly forces and how many movies don't exist that have to do with mirrors, even like sometimes paranormal shows or like investigations. A lot of times the investigators have found certain portals that are either right in front of mirrors or in the mirror themselves, and they're like oh no, no, you know what. This mirror shouldn't be on this door because there's a portal here and this and that, or they pick up on things. You know how people talk about the shadow people that come in and take your energy and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:They use mirrors as portals interesting now I'm gonna be more freaked out in my own house with mirrors. But let's talk about the mimic theory now, because keep in mind this story that I, that I shared I had kind of like relived the experience in that moment that my boyfriend was like hey, didn't you say you you saw like a girl one night? That's what he said. And so when I was like reliving it and like, oh yeah, like re-remembering the whole thing, esmeralda was in the room present. She said you have to share this on our podcast. Um, later we were just going back and forth about just all the possibilities, like I was saying how my mind was hazy and you know, whatever the whole thing, that I had already shared.
Speaker 1:And she was like, well, I had the same, the same point of like, well, why would a ghost like want to be my boyfriend and why would he want to sound like him? And she's like, well, that's what a mimic does. It could have been a mimic and mimics are something fairly new to me, but I've been somewhat following, you know, mimic stories on tiktok and on youtube, and even I've had, like this, talk about mimics with my aunt and all that. They seem trippy, because aren't mimics just that like they speak to you, like in your family member's voice or something, but, uh, like, if you truly know how they speak and all that, then it's a giveaway. Like that's their voice, but that's not them talking to me.
Speaker 1:And usually they have to knock or like allow themselves to be invited in. So that's the only thing that I would say. That didn't not happen in my experience. No one knocked on the door and I would never in a million years have opened the hotel room door. But yeah, I mean, a mimic in mexico maybe was already in there, I don't know like there, okay, like I'm reading this from a person's like experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so someone was actually asking about mimics and the reason they're asking they're like what do we know about mimics? Because they're saying I'm living in a new place and it's happening twice to me now Once to my grown daughter and possibly with the dog no-transcript the bathroom with her. While she was in the shower. I was not home, she and I and the dog also heard a growl which didn't sound threatening, kind of half growl, funny noises she makes when getting comfortable. She reacted to it and growled a little back. We all clearly heard it. This setting is an apartment. Um, it's a little creepy, not too bad. Some weird noises otherwise, but this mimicking thing is getting a little too close. Does anyone have these experiences? Okay, so this person obviously has a audio they have not seen um this person actually hasn't seen anyone, so that's one thing.
Speaker 2:But also like how you said, that there's like a mythology about someone like a shapeshifter that actually like changes and looks like you, and there's a lot of experiences like that, and those are also known as doppelgangers. But doppelgangers are actually like I mean no, no, they are known, but that's not this it says they're supernatural entities.
Speaker 2:People use the word doppelganger for a lot of things, just for like, let's say, twin, like someone that looks like you. But then there's also like the ideas of like someone coming from a parallel universe trying to take over your body and get rid of you, and they just take over your, which I think like folklore days that was like so like changelings they would put like another person in their place when they were children. So there's like a lot of different things. But in this case it says here mimics are also known as doppelgangers. They're supernatural entities rooted in folklore and mythology from various cultures.
Speaker 2:Um, a mimic is a spiritual entity that has the ability to copy the voices of our loved ones to lure us into a false sense of security. So like I've heard stories also about mimics I know you said that they have to knock. I mean there's a lot of things about knocking also like sometimes it's just the entity that you will never see, but then all of a sudden your house will be haunted, like people say like oh, if you hear three knocks, that's already like a demon trying to get into your house. You should never open the door if you can't see who it is, but I mean, it's kind of hard to do right because you don't have a people like how you gonna know who's there, because I've heard stories about people saying an entity came into our home.
Speaker 2:We heard a knock, we opened the door. No one was there, but they must have like came in, but then there's other people. They're like, no, but we heard like my mom's voice saying, oh, it's me open. And then they open and no one's there. So like in those are two very separate cases, some people will hear a voice, which I think is even worse, because you're definitely gonna open the door if it's like it's me as a mom or your kid or whatever you know how are you gonna protect yourself?
Speaker 1:that's like crazy yeah yeah, honestly, that's just like messed up the whole that whole concept of like you're trying to be something that you're familiar with and relative, family, friends yeah, because there's.
Speaker 2:There are some people that they have haunting. That's a messed up trick it is. I mean, they have like, let's say, a haunted house that they live in. Like they already know they have all these and there's nothing to do with that. Like, let's say, they hear voices or they see like creepy shadows or whatever. But then also like they'll say I thought I saw my sister walked down the hall, but I know that she was at work and and when I went into the room she wasn't there. They're not like copying people that are deceased. There are people that actually live in that house currently and they act like they're there and they're not even home that day. Or you know, like, oh, I saw you upstairs and then like someone's like, oh, I was downstairs doing laundry. That wasn't me. In those cases, I feel like those are like really drastic hauntings already. Yeah, to be, I agree, that's already like who cares what you're gonna call it? Like you're like just getting haunted, because obviously, if they're not, just mimicking, they're also doing other things.
Speaker 1:Then you just can't put them in one category. No, yeah, I think the mimics that are coming up on tiktok that I'm coming across like those stories are visual, are no auditory, like mimics are the ones that copy your voice, unless there's like how you're saying that there's different names. But from my understanding, mimic is a, the sound one.
Speaker 2:No, but I guess I guess it falls under both, because there's some that will just copy the way you look well that's my mexico story.
Speaker 1:I guess I could have investigated further. But was I gonna do that? No, because my biggest goal was let me go to sleep once I knock out this thesis to exist. I could have went the extra mile to probably like keep looking at the mirror. I could have stayed staring at it for a while. I'd be like I'm tripping, like is there someone there? Am I gonna see something again? And maybe I would have. And then that kind of, that kind of would have shown me like oh shit, I'm being haunted in this room.
Speaker 1:I'm seeing something, but I didn't.
Speaker 2:I didn't do I don't think I would want to go to any verification. I don't think I would have ignored it like you, or like forgot about it, like just, oh, I forgot all about it. I don't think I would have forgot about it, but I definitely would not be like investigating, like looking at the mirror again. Yeah, like getting up to like hell, no, like I wouldn't. I think I would definitely have woke up, like, or text to me like hey, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Like, wake up.
Speaker 1:I think I wouldn't try to wake anybody up. I think it would have been very different if I would have seen someone in the room with us. I would have woke up in the reflection you're supposed to be somebody in the reflection but then you know what's in there, not gonna be all over here, like it's not like a threat, like we're gonna get robbed or killed, you know yeah, that's more emergency. That's more emergency like what can you do?
Speaker 2:I agree it might not be emergency, but you don't want to be alone in it, or you want to like confirm, like am I?
Speaker 1:is that really there? Yeah, can you see it?
Speaker 2:or is it just my brain? Here's another person saying that there's a type of demon that's called a mimic demon. It's gonna often start out by copying the voice of someone you live with or someone who is close to you. You will hear it say your name or some other form of address that is coming for that person to say or call you, as it can also say other things. Normally this happens when you are alone or when you know that the person is not around you. The mimic does this to incite fear, which is a type of energy that they feed off of. The more you fear it it, the more you acknowledge it, the stronger it becomes. Mimics can even appear in the physical form of someone you know, but will often get the voice of that person confused with the voice of someone else that you know. Being able to see a mimic means that it has grown stronger.
Speaker 2:So, that's already when it's like more.
Speaker 1:Okay, so lesson moral of the story is Wait, I'm not finished the.
Speaker 2:Wait, I'm not finished. The best thing to do, other than seeking spiritual help, is to ignore it. Do not react when you hear it. Do not let yourself become agitated by it. Pretend it doesn't exist. So you did the right thing, I'm telling you, if you don't feed it, it will weaken.
Speaker 1:I'm a professional. I'm a professional ghost hunter.
Speaker 2:Ghost avoider más bien. Okay, pretend it doesn't exist. If you don't feed it, it will weaken. Burning lavender incense is also helpful for maintaining a calm atmosphere. It's wise to seek assistance in the situation if you're experiencing these things Because, yes, like all negative entities, they are harmful.
Speaker 1:What I should have done is ask the worker do you know if something's going on in that room?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I would. The hotel staff would know.
Speaker 1:But, as I was going to say more of the story, but you kind of already said, like the warnings, like what to do, what to not do, definitely regardless of what haunting, they always say if you hear a knock, like just don't open the door.
Speaker 2:I know you're saying it's hard, but don't say it's hard, like let's say you're at home, you're not expected to get haunted, and you think someone might show up like let's say no, it's different. Like one of your kids or your boyfriend, you know somebody's coming home and they're like open the door.
Speaker 1:Like, and they knock the door, you're not gonna expect or know, like oh, it's a ghost like you're gonna just open the door, yeah, but like it's a red flag if you open the door and there's no one there. Yeah, but usually when you do that it's too late it already went in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like when you, the minute you open the door, oh yeah. But at the same time I don't know if I really put too much weight on that kind of stuff, because I have always told, like, like, I told my boyfriend, I told him, like a ghost or entity, if it's a spirit, it could go in wherever it wants. I don't know about that door opening, but they say like they say.
Speaker 1:They say with the mimics when they're talking to you or trying to like answer they're like on the other side of the door, like in the sala, then like they're already in your house. But like they're on the other side of the door and you're like in the restroom in your room and they're saying like don't open it. So I kind of get what you're saying, like well, they're already in my house vicinity, no, but for some reason they're like really big on it, like if you know it's not them, don't let them in. And they're like, oh, come on.
Speaker 2:No, but I think that they're trying to tell you to don't let them in your home.
Speaker 1:No, because on tiktok they're, they're already, they're in the restroom and they're like that's my mom, but she's not home and she doesn't talk to me like that.
Speaker 2:They yeah they're already in your house, then they don't know what they're talking about, because they're already in your house at that point.
Speaker 1:But see, that's the thing that they also say.
Speaker 2:Why do they mess, why do they play with you like that, like, oh, it opened the door I think it's what that thing was saying like right now we're reading is to create fear because it knows you're scared. The more it does it, the more scared you're gonna get, because they know that. You know it's already like not your mom.
Speaker 1:So the right thing to do is just open the door and keep walking, be like I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, basically, because, basically, it's something that's trying to feed off of you and you're're supposed to like, just not give it, pay it no damn mind and not feel fear, because that's how, like you said, the stronger it gets, then it's going to do extra things, like appear as a person that you know, like you're going to be able to see. Like it's like when we see somebody that we know, that we know, down, whether at work or at school, and they're like hell. No, it's ignorant.
Speaker 1:I can imagine we hear her footsteps and then her door will close right now. Oh hell, no, I'll be like oh, priscilla has a freaking ghost. I don't want to meet a double of her. So yeah, thank you for listening to my story and for staying with us. That movie was great. Wolfman was amazing. We understand that there's like a vast amount of hauntings and scary stories out there, so and it's really hard to put them in categories. Yes, but I'm saying this one doesn't really match, you know, the changeling werewolf thing, but still.
Speaker 2:It's still a feature. If anyone has any stories that they want to share with us, send us an email down at the bottom in the description chicasaguy at gmailcom boom we'll be sure to share it and it's up to you if you want to be anonymous or not, but we'll share it, so thank you for listening till next time. Bye, bye. Thanks for watching.
